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Hi there, I am hoping someone can help me identify the variety of these two coins. 1824  1827  |
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United States
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New Member
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Thanks, but I knew that they are Capped Bust Halves, I am looking for the specific Overton variety if someone knows.
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Pillar of the Community
United States
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Welcome to the CCF!
I am thinking the 1824 is O-108. OBV.7 and REV. G. Can you make out a die crack above UNITED S. or RICA?
Too tired to try the 1827...
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New Member
United States
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No die cracks on the reverse of the 1824, but strong doubling from bottom of nose down to neck. The 2 is slightly higher in date. The 8 and 2 are a smidge closer. There is a possible (really too hard to tell with wear) bump on chin directly below lip, almost as if the die was chipped.
On reverse, the S in States is close and slightly higher than the T.
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United States
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More on the 1827, hopefully this will help.
Nothing really stands out on the obverse.
Reverse:
E in States has been recut
I in Pluribus has break about in middle
E-D in United are almost touching at base
A dot between lines 3-4 in shield
Line 3 in first vertical stripe extends into crossbar
Line 3 in sixth vertical stripe extends into crossbar
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Nothing really stands out on the obverse.
Actually the stars are what stand out. Bieng draw to the edge makes me want to say O-122 on the 1827 but I would wait for other opinions. BTW, sticking with O-108 on the 1824. I asked about the crack to see if it were a later die state. |
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I hate 1827's.  49 varieties, no waiting. Just frustration. This one raised a very interesting question during my research. The obverse has so little milling left that I essentially abandoned it for my research; only the bottom of star 7 has any evidential relevance so we'll just use that as a minor confirmation point. Your description of the reverse indicates Reverse V, characterized by the lump in the I and recut E. That narrows it down to O-128 and O-139. But there's a problem here: I saw two different configurations of 50C in my research. My normal method of attributing Busties is to come to conclusions using my Overton, and then compare what I see here to high-resolution images of attributed coins at Heritage Auctions. Even after filtering the wheat from the chaff, knowing some coins will be misattributed, I still saw two different-looking 5's on reverses which all obviously had the lump in the I and the recut T. One 5 was much more compressed, narrower horizontally than the other, even accounting for wear. Well, we'll save that question for later. Having chosen the reverse, we now have to use what we have of the obverse to choose between 128 and 139.  Rather than drag you through the last 1-1/2 hours of my life, I'll just say that, based solely on there the inner point of star 13 aims, I'm calling it O-139. I may be wrong. |
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LOL...SsuperDdave....I gave up too soon on the 27....my eyes started to hurt....thank you for correcting me and giving a more solid answer than I did. What say you about the 1824?
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What say you about the 1824? I like O-108 for it. Fortunately, that T-I relationship is uncommon for the date and the high S nails it. |
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49 varieties, no waiting. Dave, I seldom see your funny side but when I do, it's never disappointing. |
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108 and 139. Thanks guys, I really appreciate it.
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