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1851 Large Cent - Good Deal?

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 Posted 05/06/2013  3:21 pm Show Profile   Bookmark this topic Add thusdayclub to your friends list Get a Link to this Message Number of Subscribers
Hello. I bought this large cent for 33$. Pics are from seller, I do not have this coin yet. In my opinion details are pretty nice and sharp, but surface seems to be little damaged (seller description - cleaned and polished). You think I made good deal or cleaning bring me a big price drop? Thanks for your opinion.

1851-Large-Cent---Good-Deal?

1851-Large-Cent---Good-Deal?
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 Posted 05/06/2013  3:33 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add SsuperDdave to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply

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You think I made good deal or cleaning bring me a big price drop?


Both.

Let's wait until you have it in hand to decide just how much money you've saved. I don't care if I could shave in the polishing, $33 for that coin is a deal.
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 Posted 05/06/2013  3:54 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add jsbruton to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
That's a real good deal...that is like a 100 dollar coin.
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 Posted 05/06/2013  3:56 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add panzaldi to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
..looks like a good deal. I'm thinking this would grade at AU58 which would put it around $200 range. you'll need to see it in hand to look at the surfaces. I think the least it would be worth would be about $60. I see a bunch of dings but the lighting and a little out of focus shot its hard to see the surfaces and other problems if they are there.
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 Posted 05/06/2013  3:56 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add jsbruton to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
If the coin is polished it could cut that hundred in half.
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 Posted 05/06/2013  3:57 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add miket to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Really a $100.
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 Posted 05/06/2013  4:51 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add SsuperDdave to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Don't forget, guys - the OP himself said he'd been told that the coin was cleaned and polished. What some Europeans might not know, though, is how frequently contemporary collectors of that era lacquered their coins for preservation....and as a result they look polished. This Cent, showing what appears to be absolutely no wear and no sign of crud ever having accrued anywhere on the coin, is the perfect candidate for a contemporary collector's Mint State acquisition being immediately treated according to their rules of preservation.

The images are almost but not quite good enough for me to think it hasn't been polished. And if it *has* been lacquered, many of those "marks" will come off with the lacquer, and acetone will take care of it without problem.

I really didn't want to mention all that so soon, but the conversation makes me think I should. So let's wait until he has it in hand, and we'll go from there.
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My only concern with acetoning copper is the funky coloration it will turn afterwards. Even with an appropriate rinse in distilled water. With the higher grade of the coin, the rainbow swirling will be even more evident.
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Good deal thusdayclub. I can't wait to see your pics to compare and see how good a deal!
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My only concern with acetoning copper is the funky coloration it will turn afterwards. Even with an appropriate rinse in distilled water. With the higher grade of the coin, the rainbow swirling will be even more evident.


I've never heard that before. Acetone is capable of reacting with copper, but what you see afterward will be blue copper acetate and you have to deliberately bring together disparate elements to make it happen. I've commented recently on the process here.

Otherwise, acetone evaporates completely from the surface of a coin, leaving no residue if you've done it right, so any further rinse is completely redundant.
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Even if the coin has been cleaned and/or polished, you did incredibly well for $33.
I'd pay that all day long :-)
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Great price for nice example cleaned or not
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Sharp details ... But, do I see evidence of whizzing on Liberty's face?
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Fantastic buy for $33!
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Not sure about a $100. but it is a lot nicer than anything I own and I thought mine were ok.Seems like the back of these coins(face being front)never show very much wear.

Still new at the wear on certain coins.
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