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Panic Selling Or Panic Buying?

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 Posted 05/19/2013  12:36 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add barryg to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Well, selling everything I own right now for $25 would definitely be considered panic selling in my opinion, and I do try to avoid panicking whenever possible...
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 Posted 05/19/2013  1:09 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add angel2004 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I guess I really don't panic buy or sell. I may have purchased over this past 'dip' but with premiums so high, I didn't. About the only thing I did buy was the Chaco Culture 5oz when it dropped to 179 but not on a panic, I just thought a fair price in comparsion to what they did cost and I put them away for 2 birthday gifts next month. It seems the junk silver is at about $20/$1 face now even with spot being so low and I just can't bring myself to pay that much. I know some say (and I am starting to buy into it) that paper PMs are affecting the spot and true physical PMs are valued higher (thus high premiums) and worth buying. I just can't do it right now.
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 Posted 05/19/2013  1:17 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add basebal21 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply

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I know some say (and I am starting to buy into it)


It was nothing more than sellers gouging the panic buyers. Its already gone
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 Posted 05/19/2013  7:04 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add angel2004 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
And silver seems to be dropping again. It reminds me of that Sunday night in May 2011 when silver started to crash after the rally to the high $40s
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 Posted 05/19/2013  7:23 pm  Show Profile   Check BH1964's eBay Listings Bookmark this reply Add BH1964 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
The time to buy is when everyone else is selling and the time to sell is when everyone else is buying. When silver was on the way up people were scrambling to find it at $30/oz. Now those same people won't buy at $22? Doesn't make much sense, only emotional.

I was able to order 2 100oz JM bars this weekend for $2250/each.
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 Posted 05/19/2013  7:24 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add yup7676 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
All I know is every time people rush to buy an asset that falls hard on price, and use expressions such as "buy when theres blood in the streets" and "be greedy when others are fearful", and dont first understand WHY its falling and just buy, they end up being smoked. In this case, as is typical and has been voiced many times, buying and hoping that it will come back is wrong and we can see the impact tonight.

So I mean, if you loved silver and gold on the last crash from a couple weeks ago, surely you must love it here and therefore you would want to back up the truck, right?
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 Posted 05/19/2013  9:01 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Northerncoins to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Back up the truck baby... or not...
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 Posted 05/19/2013  9:16 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add allspice to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Watch premiums though NC. I noticed SGBull upped their premiums by 50 cents. Not a lot of difference in the price of Maples, really...
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 Posted 05/19/2013  9:25 pm  Show Profile   Check BH1964's eBay Listings Bookmark this reply Add BH1964 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply

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Back up the truck baby... or not...


We're close to "Back up the truck", very close. You could try and time a bottom but if you're buying physical, don't expect to find it under $20/oz this year. We might see $18/oz or $19/oz this summer but it's way oversold and undervalued right now. The equity markets are way over-bought right now too.

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"The equity markets are way over-bought right now too." and saying PMS are "oversold" ..

1- no such thing as "oversold" and "overbought" for starters,

2- its obvious that the run in PMs is done and over with. sometimes reality is hard to accept but the facts all support this. Many folks who have stacked are going to be waiting a long time IMO.
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 Posted 05/19/2013  9:37 pm  Show Profile   Check BH1964's eBay Listings Bookmark this reply Add BH1964 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
We'll come back in a year and see who's right.

Edited to remove comments made in haste.
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I did a poll last April asking people to predict the price of silver in 2012. The vast majority choose in the range of $35-45 an ounce. I believe the price at the time was around $33. I choose well below that, I think around $22. I was off by a month but it turns out I got pretty close. Did I come up with that amount by research and deductive reasoning? Nope. Plain old wishful thinking. For my next wish, I'm calling for $15 an ounce by this time next year, hopefully falling to the high teens as early as this summer. I see no reason why it won't happen. But time will tell.
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Yup seems to know EVERYTHING. Fact is he knows little. Very little.


As long as that "very little" category in Yup's book of knowledge encompasses the accurate prediction of PM movements, I'm happy!
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We'll come back in a year and see who's right.

Yup seems to know EVERYTHING. Fact is he knows little. Very little.


He may not have said it in the nicest way but hes right.

Oversold means that its value is below where its real value lies, we know 100 percent that is not the case for silver. The only way you can say that is if your saying the spike thats been working its way down for 2 years is its true value, its not. Silver has never had that value except for short periods of time during uncertain economic times. Its true value is somewhere in the 5-10 dollar range where it sits for decades at a time until the next uncertainty.

A new sort term higher value does not set a new true value for something. It hasnt even been holding that value as its gone from 50 to high 40s to mid 40s stepping its way back down since the end of 2011. There are no fundamentals of silver that we can look at and say this is what it should be trading for, it doesn't have profit margins or gross income ect.

If anything it resembles more of a pump and dump stock than anything. Will it go back up again at some point yes almost certainly it will spike again, but all time highs dont set a new fundamental value
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Oh trust me, I will be right. Of that, I have no problem in saying I am right and will be right.


I been hearing the public, and even worse, traders say the same thing, that the markets are over bought,,, been hearing that for the last 160+ point rise in the markets.

Those who listen to my suggestions, stand to gain and learn.

blah blah blah blah,,,, I hear it all the time. I dont care, I am doing what I do to help those folks who need help in understanding whats going on, whos selling and whos buying.

I dont care if you want to insult me, put me down, accuse me, dont like me, etc.

I will continue to sound the alarm bells to anyone who listens. IF and WHEN gold and silver change course, I will know it and I will share it with everyone. But at this stage, no one should be buying silver and gold at these levels.
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