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Problems With Shipping And Receiving Coins On Ebay

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 Posted 06/16/2013  12:06 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add seal006 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
LOL, buddy16cat, ANYTHING you post on an open forum is open for discussion. That is the whole meaning of "open" forum. If you do not like discussion or opinions then do not post.
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 Posted 06/16/2013  5:23 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add buddy16cat to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
And if you make condescending remarks, expect a response. If you don't like that maybe you should refrain from posting. Plus this is not an "open" forum, it is someone's intellectual property they can do with they please with.
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 Posted 06/16/2013  7:29 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add seal006 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I am not making condescending remarks. I am simply posting ideas from my own experiences.
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 Posted 06/16/2013  7:45 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add bobby131313 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply

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I then sent a Shield nickel in a 6X9 envelope that fits the ebay shipping label and was told by the buyer that the post office charged them $3.95 shipping for their coin.


First class mail with DC must be 3/4 of an inch thick. If its not, they up the price to Priority. They first try to charge the recipient the difference, then return to sender.
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 Posted 06/17/2013  06:19 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add buddy16cat to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I did not mention the thickness, 6x9 is the width and length. I made the envelope as thin as possible and it was under 1/4 an inch. Why do they have a first class package then? A package is not 3/4 inches thick.
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 Posted 06/17/2013  8:32 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add bobby131313 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply

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A package is not 3/4 inches thick.


That's exactly what they consider a package. 3/4 and up.
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 Posted 06/19/2013  10:41 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add weerdsteev to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Is there any chance that the postage due on that package was $3.91 instead of $3.93? The reason I'm asking is because I went to the USPS site and tried every combination of envelope and package size to come up with the $3.93. The closest I got was something called "Standard Post" which would have cost $5.60...so...if you shipped your package at $1.69 and the USPS deemed it (probably erroneously) to be "Standard Post", they might have asked your buyer for the extra $3.91 difference.

Buddy16cat: To your original question, where you asked if anyone had been having issues buying and selling coins on ebay: I'll probably jinx myself, and I acknowledge that there are folks like Hesgut, who seem to live in the USPS equivalent of the Bermuda Triangle and who can't catch a break no matter what they do, but I guess I've lived a rather charmed life when it comes to ebay. In well over 10,000 transactions I doubt that I've had even 10 instances of shipments going astray, legitimately or otherwise. And that includes an awful lot of shipments that did NOT have tracking numbers. Until ebay made some changes in their TRS\Powerseller program, anything of mine that sold for under $10 was shipped in a standard envelope with postage stamps on it and NO delivery confirmation...and I sold a LOT of items for under $10.00. Right now, it costs .66 cents to ship a single coin in a regular old envelope (first class with "rigid object" rate) and $1.69 if you use eBay\PayPal's system and put it into a #000 bubble mailer. You can see that even if I ended up fully refunding 10% of all these shipments due to BS claims of non-delivery, I would not have lost any more money than I would have invested by using ebay's system and "protecting" myself with Delivery Confirmation, to the tune of an extra $1.03 per shipment. I switched to $1.69 program only because not doing so was going to have a negative impact on my discounts/ratings/etc that I currently enjoy on ebay.

If you're going to ship low value items in a standard envelope with no DC, however, I suggest the following:

1.) Unless you have flawless handwriting, print the shipping address from your computer on a number 5160 Avery (or equivalent) label. Just because YOU can read your writing, it doesn't mean anyone else can. My writing (and printing, for that matter) looks like juvenile scrawl! I don't trust that ANYONE can read it!
2.) Put a strip of clear adhesive tape over the label so it won't fall off. (I guarantee you that if you don't use the tape you can make that label lift up at the corners by flexing the envelope a few times. If it lifts up at the corners it can be pulled off by another piece of mail sliding across it in the USPS system)
3.) Put a strip of tape over the flap and also a piece at each of the upper corners...you know...at the point of the envelope where someone could insert a fingertip, or a letter opener or a pen knife.
4.) Proper postage for a 1 ounce standard envelope with a coin in it is 66 cents. Don't try to get away with using a single "Forever" stamp on it.

You should be striving to make that envelope difficult to open for your buyer...who has the luxury of opening it with a pair of scissors, unlike the run of the mill dishonest postal worker who would probably pass it over in favor of easier targets.
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06/19/2013 12:19 pm
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 Posted 06/19/2013  5:25 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add buddy16cat to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Actually I did not have problems sending coins in regular mail. One person said they didn't get their coin but this may because they experienced buyer's remorse and simply chose to say they never got it. I probably shouldn't have insinuated that I would refund them by telling me to contact them if they still haven't received in a week and simply told them I shipped it the next business day. I can tell you this though, if it was an erroneous charge, USPS never admits guilt on anything. I guess they can get away with that. I am having yet another problem. I put two packages in the USPS mail box, one is tracking one is not. Looks like I have to go to the post office and stand there and watch him scan it unless it is yet another package that disappeared like the Barber dimes I bought. In this instance I am covered by Paypal. As far as selling low cost coins less than a couple bucks, no sense in even selling them on ebay, the money is eaten away in fees. I did have someone here buy 6 V nickels from me and that got there no problem in regular mail. I have little problem with regular mail but do realize with ebay buyer protection, people can use it to get free coins and not much you can do without tracking.
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 Posted 07/16/2013  7:48 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add buddy16cat to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I actually just won another lot including a 1876 Indian Head with VF details for $10 and of course, it left my sort facility and disappeared. This is becoming typical in my area. I think the people at my local sort facility are pocketing small packages that look like they contain something valuable. I am starting to think it may be better if I don't bid on auctions on ebay till I figure out what is going on.
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 Posted 07/17/2013  8:51 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Bassmaster to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I had a package go all the way to Hawaii before going to Oregon. It is frustrating, and it could be some people in your area swiping them. However, it could also be a stroke of bad luck. Even though I clearly said in my listings that I do not ship foreign as well as Alaska or Hawaii. I had to deal with 3 people in one day that bid on things when before I had only had one problem. Hang in there.
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 Posted 07/19/2013  04:43 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add buddy16cat to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Yes, if I can't get my packages or if there is a chance I am not going to get the package, it makes me reluctant to buy coins online. There are local shows and shops by me. If I start to have too many issues with packages being sent I may have to back off from selling on ebay. Fortunately, if I don't generally have an issue with putting a stamp on them since they look like letters. I had one person tell me they didn't receive a coin but I am doubting that. One issue I see is the more rural sorting facility I often saw my packages went to I believe has been closed and now all the packages go to a sorting facility in a rough part of the city, where theft if more likely.
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07/19/2013 04:59 am
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 Posted 07/20/2013  7:12 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add buddy16cat to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Actually the last situation I encountered, the coins were returned to the seller and marked "available for pickup", I know what that means, postage is due. Apparently the seller did not select the right postage. It ticks me off I am not going to receive the coins, one was a 1876 with VF details and I got the 3 coins for $10. Oh well.
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 Posted 07/24/2013  6:48 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add buddy16cat to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Too weird, the 2 missing packages finally arrived. One from May that was covered in grease. The other, looked like there was an issue with the way the seller packed it, it was returned to the seller's post office from my area and sent back to my area once again, and eventually delivered.
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 Posted 07/24/2013  7:36 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Bassmaster to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Wow, that is strange.
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