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SteveCaruso Pillar of the Community United States 1796 Posts	Posted 07/28/2013 10:38 pm Aye ebay doesn't do counterfeits anymore, and where it has helped curtain counterfeiting operations, it has really hampered counterfeit collectors like myself. Even though it's completely legal (at least in the USA, Canada, and UK) to buy and sell fakes as fakes (it's the intent to defraud that makes it illegal) it's a bad tradeoff for curtailing them. The fewer counterfeits in circulation the better, and it makes my particular facet of the hobby more fun with the thrill of the chase. :-) Anyways, a cruddy 1909-S VDB is going to run you about $5 (and by cruddy I mean laughable), where a good one will go anywhere from $15-$50 depending on how well made it is and by what method, and who you're buying from (some people try and push for higher prices to recoup their own loss). I cannot direct you to anyone I know who is selling one (I simply don't know) and the ones in my collection are not for sale (they are staying out of circulation, permanently). :-) Report this Post to the Staff
Conder101 Bedrock of the Community United States 17884 Posts	Posted 07/29/2013 11:54 am Quote: I think that if both the seller AND the buyer KNOW that the coin is not real then there is no harm. The problem was that people were knowingly buying fakes from the chinese sellers (both buyer and seller know it's fake so it is fine right?) and then the buyers were then turning around and re-selling the fakes as real and ripping off the unknowledgeable for big buck (not fine). So at one time ebay did allow the fakes to be openly sold, but they had to be clearly marked. So the chinese fakes were clearly marked as REPLICA in their ebay ad, and then unmarked fakes were shipped. ( even if they had been marked REPLICA they would still be illegal to import under the Hobby Protection Act. The law requires them to say COPY not REPLICA.) So eventually ebay just threw in the towell and forbid all fakes marked or unmarked. Report this Post to the Staff
PennyPiggy Valued Member United States 317 Posts	Posted 07/29/2013 12:16 pm Thanks for all that took the time to chime in on this one. I'm getting an education here. Report this Post to the Staff
larsdog Pillar of the Community United States 593 Posts	Posted 07/29/2013 12:58 pm Fakes sell on ebay all the time. This appears (to me) to be a fake 1909-S (not VDB): http://www.ebay.com/itm/29095003911....m1423.l2649 A 1909-S VDB that looked just as dicey went for over $500 recently. Edited by larsdog 07/29/2013 1:00 pm Report this Post to the Staff
miket Valued Member United States 258 Posts	Posted 07/29/2013 8:50 pm larsdog. It's not selling like a fake. Report this Post to the Staff
larsdog Pillar of the Community United States 593 Posts	Posted 07/30/2013 2:56 pm I know, but look at that mint mark and tell me what you think. Report this Post to the Staff
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