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1870 8/5 Dime I Had This Posted Before But Now Certified

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 Posted 02/27/2015  02:28 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add canadian-varieties to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
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This 1870 is damaged ( PMD), the tops of the 1, 8 and 7 are all damaged, flattened. The 8 is not a 8/5 but has been damaged in two places, giving it little "horns".

In fact, the tops of C, E and N are all damaged similarly. The 8 in this coin looks nothing like a 8/5 or THE 8/5 in the 1858 dime.

Louis (CCCS) has made a mistake certifying this coin.

I think a much better approach, would have been to search for a 2nd example in EF, AU or MS, for confirmation, and only THEN present the find.

Claiming a new variety on a severely damaged G6 graded coin, is a bad idea.

There are thousands of severely damaged Victorian coins floating around making it appear like there are any possible combinations of overpunched numbers or letters, when in reality, they are simply damaged coins.








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Here is a close-up of my 1858 8/5 (CCCS AU55), for comparison purposes.

With all the damage on your coin aside, the "horns" on top of the 8 in your 1870, are in the wrong place, for there to be an underlying 5. Also the top loop of the 8 in your 1870 is not partially filled like the 8/5 in the 1858.


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 Posted 02/27/2015  09:22 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add BoroLeColon to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
After checking carefully mine(1858). I can tell ou that the left "horn" is exactly the same as mine. I mean exactly, the right one is not exactly at the same spot.

Keep in mind that this isn't the same year so perhaps it was slighty different.

Also I don't think Louis would take it and in 5 secs attribute that 8 over 5. My guess is he must have check it VERY VERY carefully for some time and weight the possibly that it is simply fom damage.

As for the filling on mine we can't say they are really one. It's AG after all...

My question to the owner of that 1870 was to see if the observe had the same doubled "A" in the last "A" of Canada.
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The perils of collecting these sorts of Varieties is akin to walking on jello. Shaky at best. Disastrous at worst. Unless someone finds one of these so called rarities for a song , it is folly to pay a huge premium to buy one. There are far more solid ways to spend money on coins. Just asking if you had ten grand to spend"........... Would you buy a well worn dime in a so called TPG holder that is or is not a true rarity or say put the same amount into a solid selection of Gem mint state Victorian or Edwardian type coins? I know where I would go or recommend my clients to put the money, and it would not be the dime.
If you are going to buy coins , with an eye to LONG TERM growth buy track proven Quality pieces. If you are going to buy coins for a fun hobby , roll search, junk bin surf, and search for obscure varieties,( cherry pick) , Do not lay out large for obscure unproven material , you will regret it down the road. Wierd varieties can be in vogue one week and no one cares the next.
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this could be an 1870
amazing how someone can do this...


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amazing how someone can do this..

That is amazing art work..
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