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Best I Can Get On A $400 Budget? Help

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 Posted 12/06/2019  8:38 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add pepactonius to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply

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Does anyone have a different opinion? If so, why?


My first iteration of the "$400 setup" used a Canon T2i. After the USB connection became flakey, I switched to the T6s. Despite the increase in megapixels, the coin images weren't markedly better.

Of course, it's possible that the newer camera might last longer?
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 Posted 12/07/2019  11:30 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add rmpsrpms to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I don't think there would be much difference in reliability between DSLRs. The more expensive camera will just be more expensive to replace the shutter if it ever wears out. Other than the USB port, the shutter is the most likely component to wear out, at least in that list of components that matter to coin photographers.

Now, there are certainly newer cameras which could have a much longer life when used as we do. A few cameras are capable of full electronic exposure, with only electronic shutter. This is the case for the various USB cameras, and for a few MILCs. Even some DSLRs have full electronic option. For folks doing lots of focus stacking, it would make sense to look into this sort of camera, but they are well outside the price range of what we're discussing here.
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 Posted 12/13/2019  3:04 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add pietrz44 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Where can I buy Canson Opalux Diffusion Material because I can't find it anywhere?
If anyone knew about a store in Europe it would be great.
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In the US it's available at most art supply stores. Canson is a US brand so it might be hard to find in Europe. Other art vellums may work just as well. Try a local art supply store and get the heaviest weight vellum you can, and it should be fine.
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 Posted 01/11/2020  6:37 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add pietrz44 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Hi
I create another set below $ 400.
I'm close to the end. I am waiting for the ordered camera and a few accessories. But I've finished my copy stand. I bought an old Krokus 35l enlarger for $ 12 and replaced the base for $ 4, and painted the rest. Here are the results of my work.
Lighting is Ikea Jansjo
When I finish everything, I will put pictures of my work.


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 Posted 02/08/2020  8:22 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add pietrz44 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Welcome back

At the beginning I want to all of you, in particular Ray, thank you for your advice.
I am the next user of the set below $ 400. I use Canon 450D and 75mm f4 el-nikkor.
After difficult beginnings and disappointments (I had problems with sharpness and light), I am probably getting satisfactory photos. I present to you my set and photos of coins and I ask for an opinion what I can improve.


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Outstanding results in my opinion.
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Looks like you're getting good results with this setup, especially the lighting.
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 Posted 03/01/2020  01:04 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add jwm74 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I hope I am not repeating a previous question. I have gone through the entire listing for this topic. With the <$400 setup, are you able to focus "automatically" through the computer monitor? Several of the adapters specifically state that you lose the auto-focus ability with the adapter. I have a Sony with older Minolta auto-focus lenses and have purchased some adapters that ALLOW auto-focus to function. Do I need to purchase a special adapter to allow the auto-focus to function?

Second question/observation. I have noticed some of the items listed in the most recent list of items to buy have gone UP in price (at least in a cursory e-bay check). Is there a reason for the reversal?

Thanks for replies and any hints or tips you wish to share. I have been collecting coins and taking pictures for many years and am just investigation coin photography. Does anyone have a graphic or schematic of the various items and how they connect together for the <$400 setup?
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 Posted 03/01/2020  08:59 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add rmpsrpms to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Hi jwm784...the <$400 setup as described originally is purely manual focus. Focusing is accomplished using the focus helicoid. If you already have a Minolta AF lens with 1:1 macro capability then you don't have any need for the full-coin imaging capability of the <$400 setup. Just use your existing lens. Of course if you want to zoom-in further for details shots, then the <$400 setup components would still make sense for the details photography.

For full-coin photography, the setup is configured as follows:

Canon Rebel XS -> EOS-M42 adapter -> M42 helicoid -> M42 extensions if needed -> M42-M39 adapter -> Nikon 75mm lens

The camera is mounted to a tripod or other mount via its 1/4" mount.

For details photography, the setup is configured as follows:

Canon Rebel XS -> EOS-M42 adapter -> M42 helicoid -> M42 extensions if needed -> M42-RMS adapter -> Nikon 5x objective

So it's almost the same as for full-coin work, but replacing the lens and lens adapter with objective and objective adapter.
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 Posted 03/01/2020  4:22 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add jwm74 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
rmpsrpms, Thanks for the reply and additional info. I am starting to get a feel for the needs and procedure and your schematic helps greatly as does your explanation for focusing. I thought that might be the case (losing auto-focus) but wanted to make sure. I have a zoom lens, but it must not be what is needed as I haven't been able to focus close enough to the coins. So to use my Sony, I need the adapter for Sony/Minolta to M42 followed by;
focusing helicoid (35-90mm)
M42-M39 adapter
M42-RMS Adapter
Nikon 75mm EL-Nikkor Lens

Why both M42-M39 Apapter AND M42-RMS adapter? Is it to attach the El-Nikkor lens both forward and reversed?

Conversely, could I just purchase the correct Sony/Minolta macro lens? If so, what specs would I be looking for? I have been taking pictures for many years but never got into the "theory" behind photography. I think I may have some studying to do.

Again, thanks for your help and all the information you have supplied over the years on photographing coins.
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jwm74...you don't need the M42-RMS adapter if you only use the 75mm lens. The RMS adapter is only for the 5x objective for details shots. You could certainly buy a Sony macro lens instead, and still maintain AF, but most macro folks recommend doing manual focus anyway. Most AF algorithms can't decide effectively on the correct focus point, and often will miss critical focus. It's much better to plan on doing MF, even if you buy an AF macro lens. If you do go that way, I'd recommend at least 90mm focal length, and it needs to go to 1:1 to fill the sensor with the smallest coins.
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rmpsrpms, Again, thanks for the reply and additional info. Would this Sony/Minolta software do what discuss for the Canon Live View?

https://imagingedge.sony.net/en-us/ie-desktop.html

Will check on the price for a Sony macro lens with those specs.
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Yes, ImagingEdge works very much like Canon's EOS utility, but only for certain Sony cameras. Which model Sony do you have?
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 Posted 03/01/2020  6:43 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add jwm74 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Would this macro with my Sony A350 be all I need?

https://www.ebay.com/itm/Tamron-90m...HAU#viTabs_0

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