Need Help Confirming 1872-H Canada Qtr Variety ....

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yugotex Valued Member United States 71 Posts	Posted 09/18/2013 6:23 pm New to the forum but been into world coins, including Canada, for many years. Have a question now though that am hoping someone in this forum can help me with. Recently acquired a partial Canada qtr set having two well circulated 1872H pieces. Am not a specialist in Q1 & Q2 portraits but these two seem to have different profiles. So, at least one must be Q2. Possibly the other is too and the perceived difference is somehow in the wear. Charlton says no Q1 obverses have ever been found...so, guess it's unlikely one of these is Q2...but, it has me wondering. Anyhow, am posting a scan of the obverse profiles with my crude outlining included. Your observations most appreciated... Kind Rgrds, yugotex Report this Post to the Staff

SPP-Ottawa Moderator Canada 10460 Posts	Posted 09/18/2013 6:38 pm For 1870-1872H obverses in the 25-cent series, the easiest means is to look at the I in GRATIA in the obverse legend. If the top of the 'I' points between the denticles, it is Obverse 1, if the 'I' points to a denticle, it is Obverse 2. Edit: blame the Mill Street Brewpub for my confusion earlier... but hey it was fun watching t_y get his 'MBA' from Mill Street... "Discovery follows discovery, each both raising and answering questions, each ending a long search, and each providing the new instruments for a new search." -- J. Robert Oppenheimer Content of this post is licensed under a Creative Commons Attribution-NonCommercial 3.0 Unported License. See: http://creativecommons.org/licenses...0/deed.en_US My eBay store Edited by SPP-Ottawa 09/19/2013 12:04 am Report this Post to the Staff
yugotex Valued Member United States 71 Posts	Posted 09/18/2013 7:51 pm Thanks for your input...."I" points to denticle. Understand you classic definition....but, the profiles still don't look exactly the same...pls look closely... Report this Post to the Staff
nlp coins Pillar of the Community United States 2373 Posts	Posted 09/18/2013 8:25 pm The faces look different to me like they were two separate sculptures. The lips are slanted in one figure so much more than the other and the brow/nose intersect is higher on one than the other. nlp Report this Post to the Staff
DBM Pillar of the Community Canada 9865 Posts	Posted 09/18/2013 9:48 pm Quit looking at the I in DEI,you won't find any indication of obverse type there. Look instead at the I in GRATIA,if it points between denticles it's OBV1, if it points to a denticle it's not OBV1. If the date on the reverse is 1872 it's OBV2. There are a number of varieties of OBV2. The goal of production at the time was geared more towards producing a "reasonable facsimile",the technology to produce a run of "cloned" coins did not yet exist.Every reverse and obverse die used produced a "variety". "Dipping" is not considered cleaning... -from PCGS website Edited by DBM 09/18/2013 9:49 pm Report this Post to the Staff
yugotex Valued Member United States 71 Posts	Posted 09/19/2013 06:37 am Thanks for the info. Yes, both are dated 1872. The I's of GRATIA are both well-centered on a denticle so, per your input, both are Q2. Still surprised by the significant profile differences. Is there a reference that lists different Q2 varieties? Report this Post to the Staff
DEVLEC Pillar of the Community Canada 3234 Posts	Posted 09/19/2013 11:54 am The added line graphics in the above do show the variations very well. Good work there... Report this Post to the Staff
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