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Belgium
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 Posted 06/19/2007  07:02 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add ageka to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
When I was young (like 15 or so) I polished a dozen gold 20 frank coins with copper polish
Lost me only 5% on those I sold
I still got some in the bank and they retoned and it takes a really experience eye to see the cleaning after 45 years
They were "non collectors " coins anyway
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 Posted 06/19/2007  09:51 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add chasinva69 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Three big mistakes (and a bunch of little ones).

1. won an auction on ebay for massive collection of coins from estate sale! silver! It cost $400 and wasn't even worth fraction of what I paid.

2. Bought chinese panda coins that weren't even real coins, just "collectibles."

3. Was taking a picture of my 1915 Panama-Pacific commemorative and dropped it. Now it has a noticeable dent at about 1 o'clock. That knocked about $150 or more off the value of this coin.
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 Posted 06/19/2007  12:05 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Parklane64 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply

Bid on auctions by *deleted* (pamela j *deleted*, Savannah, GA).
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 Posted 06/19/2007  1:00 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add hunter20ga to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Oh...like nearly everyone, I've overpaid for one coin or another, but perhaps the biggest mistake I made (and likely continue to make) was to buy quantity rather than quality. In 1980 I went to my first coin show...and had about $50-60 to spend. I did buy a 1912-S Liberty nickel, but also bought a number of low grade common date Liberty nickels at the same time. I could have bought an 1885 Liberty nickel (fine-xf) instead of all those common date coins...the difference in value today...hundreds of dollars.

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 Posted 06/19/2007  1:08 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Southern Yankee to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
When I was about ten or eleven I had a Lincoln Cent collection that had all the cents from 1920 up to 1970 and a few in the teens. All circulated of course. I was at the coinshop and happen to see a bottle of coin cleaner on the shelf. I thought I would make my coins look good so I bought it. I can even remember the little wire brush that came with it. When I got back to the house there was no stopping me. My coins were going to look new again. So I dipped and scrubbed and scrubbed and dipped until the bottle was empty. I started at the front of the book and went from there. Ran out of cleaner at about the beginning of the sixties. I was right proud of getting that many cleaned out of one bottle.

Well the next day I went back for another bottle to finish off the set. I was getting ready to pay for the bottle when the man asked me what I was doing with all the cleaner. I told him. You would of thunk I shot his dog. I went back home almost crying. Needless to say the nice and clean cents (forgot to mention all the scratches that reared their ugly head when looked at in the sunlight) bought me alot of bazooka.
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 Posted 06/19/2007  1:23 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add ageka to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Seven years ago when I branched out
I learned two more simple facts of life

one : a simple touch by human skin will leave a "scratch" on a proof gold coin

two ; touching 100% pure satin silk to a proof silver 10 oz australian to wipe off some clouding will scar it for life
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 Posted 06/19/2007  1:36 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add okie-colin to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
When I got out of college in 1970 and got a real job I started investing in collectible old type coins. I had AU to XF old coppers and a number of Twenty Cent Pieces, two and Three Cent pieces and choice Morgan dollars. In 1979 I had a new baby and wanted a bass boat. I sold the whole collection on my local bid board and got peanuts for them compared to today's values. I got tired of the bass boat in a couple of years. Ironically, I bought many of those same coins again in a lower grade for many times the value to complete my 7070. Moral to those younger collector's - hold on to those coins. You won't be sorry!
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 Posted 06/19/2007  4:13 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Jim1953 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
This is one you can make over and over again and I do not know how to avoid it. At an auction a few months ago, there was a plastic bin, sort of like that you would keep fishing lures in with no dividers. It had about 300 Lincoln wheat cents in it and during preview I went thru them. Typical stuff but there was a g-4 plus 1909 S in with them. It would seem that others had done the same thing since I ended up buying it for $95.00 plus 10% Buyers fee. When I got home, you guessed it, the 1909 S was not to be found. I will always wonder if someone stole it or if the auction company removed it. I do not know how you would avoid this if you are going to buy bulk lots at auctions.
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 Posted 06/19/2007  4:27 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add SsuperDdave to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
quote:
SuperDave,

If it's not too painful, can you elaborate on your story a little bit? Or have you discussed it elsewhere on the forum?

Thanks

Mark (HABIB)


Mark, those two coins were how I learned about the prevalence of counterfeiting in the coin industry. Both auction wins, both at odd hours on odd days so the bidding stayed low, both with inconclusive pics, and both from sellers with excellent feedback and no apparent history of fraud. Still cost me $250 between them.

If I ever sell all my coins, they will be the last to go.
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 Posted 06/19/2007  4:29 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add AuldFartte to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Two things I recall easily:

First, when I was about 12 or so, my grandmother gave me a box of coins that my great-grandmother had saved. Inside was a beautifully toned 1926-s Oregon Trail half. Being a stupid kid, and thinking "shiny is better", I grabbed the bottle of silver polish and ... well, you can guess the rest

The other is a series of mistakes in buying coins on ebay that turn out to be cleaned, but they didn't look that way in the photos. Live and learn, huh?
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United States
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 Posted 06/19/2007  4:31 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add ElleKitty to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
United States Monetary Exchange.

If that isn't enough to set you off laughing;

with the onset of the States Quarters programs, this lovely institution sent out letters offering the State Quarter for your state of residence encapsuled and in a 'collector's box' for the mere fee of.. I think it was around $25. Something inside of me kept saying; "this isn't a good deal. Really it isn't." But my husband liked the idea, it wasn't too preposterous, so we bought (not just one, but) two.

I had higher hopes that we might get something that might come close to being an heirloom, or something. But what we got instead was this little pasteboard box, coloured gold, with a huge crimson ribbon on the top, proudly proclaiming United States Monetary Exchange (certified!) and.. a paper insert that holds the two little Texas quarters; one P mint and one D mint. The coins themselves actually don't look as nice as some I got as change from the fast food restaurant drive thru window at four AM.

Well, I learned my lesson. The USME is indeed in the business of exchanging your money, and at a very hefty commission. ><
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 Posted 06/24/2007  02:45 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add chevrolet454ss to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
My big mistake I made was selling an fake 1990 no s penny proof set that was remade using an no mint mark penny out of 1990 mint set or bu coin for that year. An person took apart proof set and switched penny out in there with an non proof penny and used an 1990 no mint mark penny in there.
1. My grandfather passed away in 1999 and I was given proof set right after he died .
2. I had it all those years thinking it was real and listed on ebay to sell as an real unit. It was turned into ebay as an fake proof set. The auction company pulled auction after ebay told them it was fake. That's when I find out unit was fake and penny was switched out in set after having for it years .
3. Serval months ago by after the first auction. I re-list it on ebay as no s proof set that is an ? mark set or problem set. I stated in auction the problems I had with and could be an fake and I just don't know. I disclose all problems with it.
4. I stated in auction there was no returns since it was problem set .
5. It sat all weak long about for less than 100 bucks since people could tell its was fake in photos.
6. In last few minutes of auction they went into an biding war and paid me over 2000 for set.
I get my 2000 from pay pal and ship item to high bidder. Since I knew it fake I would have been happy to have sold it less than 100 bucks or whatever it was it worth.
The wining bidder goes nuts and try to charge-back the in tire 2000 on pay-pal . I stated in auction there was no returns and item could be fake but there was no s on the penny. His charge back messed up my auto parts sales on ebay and I could not pay for items I bought on ebay. I almost got in trouble with ebay over items I bought I cant pay for since pay pal had an hold on me.

Pay pal demanded he fax an copy of police report and he never did. I won the case and got to keep my 2000 on proof set. If police read auction they would have ruled in my favor since it was being sold an problem set as I listed it.

I learned something about people on ebay they will overpay or get into biding wars over stuff that's not worth it like my 1990 no s remade proof set. I cant help it if start bidding at 9.95 and state no reserve like I did. If my set was real it would have sold for 5000 to 10000 easy on ebay.

The moral of story is if you have fakes or stuff that's has its problem don't list on ebay. I feel bad for the guy who overpaid me like 2000 on that set on ebay. That sale almost me messed my auto part sales on ebay as-long with my name getting messed up on ebay and with pay pal. It was nightmare for me . I was even scared and even called us government police to turn my self in to feds where we can fix that problem. The feds never called me back and guess I am free since the guy tried turning me to police or feds for selling fake us mint products.

I learned my lesson. ITS NOT WORTH SELLING FAKES OR PROBLEMS SETS ON ebay NO MATER WHAT. If not worth the worry about Jail time or getting kicked off the ebay, or problems with pay-pal, losing sales from auto parts or any problems I had to deal with over that fake proof set. After that I will never sell an another fake or problem coin after my saga with that problem set.

I told the buyer to send proof set back and he never did. I told him I would sell again for him and refund his money . He just went away and I never heard from again. I guess its over today. I still don't know why those people would overpay an person on fake item like they did me that time. I don't ever see that ever happening again with me ever again. To this day I still don't understand why they had that biding war in last few minutes of auction over that remade proof set. After that Like I said I not selling any more fakes or problem sets on ebay even I after I disclose they are fakes or whatever. Its not worth the trouble or all the the problems I created by selling that fake proof set.
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 Posted 06/24/2007  2:00 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Ken_3567 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Mine was not having a plan, goal, or strategy when I first started. I spent my first $1,000 on common modern stuff. I know of at least 2 coin dealers that must of loved me for moving their slow inventory. But the fun didn't stop there, my next $1,000 was spent buying any coin that was shiny and silver. I finally realized where I was headed and finally figured out how to focus. Too bad it cost a couple of thousand dollars.

P.S.
For you YN folks $2,000 in the 80's was like 2 1/2 months pay (after taxes).
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 Posted 06/27/2007  11:41 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add just carl to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I've always been to cheap, to cautious, to much of a worry type person to have made a coin mistake. Even as a little kid I watched money with caution. I never have used ebay so that eleminates many possible errors. For coin prices I do the following. Write down coins I am interested in. Make columns for different prices. Go to the PCGS web site and write down their prices. Go to the Red Book and write down their prices. Go to ebay and if avaiable write down their prices. Go to at least 2 or 3 on line dealers and write down their prices. Now armed with this list I go to coin shows and if I c can't find coins for less than all these prices, I just go home.
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Canada
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 Posted 06/27/2007  12:05 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add pattiewhack to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
quote:
I made a mistake as a young kid in the 1950's which could have had health consequences.

I had a tube full of mercury. I enjoyed pouring it over silver coins and steel pennies, when I wasn't pouring it from one of my hands to the other.

I have no idea what happened to the coins, and luckily I think I avoided health problems.


Whenever I read this I start to shake... Nowadays it seems so weird that a person would do this, yet I would too play with mercury if I didn't know what it can do... My chem teacher told me she used to have a job in a lab, working with mercury in Columbia (back when it was semi-safe) and by the end of the day her hands would be numb from holding mercury withought gloves. *shivers*
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