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 Posted 11/25/2013  3:41 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add basebal21 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Dave thats correct.

That middle area in the prong part is designed to be the size of the coin with just those two small lips being bigger that fit over the rim.
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So I wonder if the size ring used for this coin is a little snug and it needed a little extra umph to get it in there..Or, the first attempt failed and it had to be removed to be placed in another finger insert.
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They could have tried a wrong sized ring, but that part is done by hand so theres not the option of just machine forcing something in.

The one I pictured was for a quarter, I've been trying to shove an SBA in there but so far all I've done is damage part of the lips and I've been man handling it. I can get two prongs on it but not the third.
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 Posted 11/25/2013  5:58 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add kbbpll to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I was picturing the plastic being much stiffer (although I wasn't really thinking how all three could go over a coin in that case). From your description of struggling with the SBA now I'm picturing taking a screwdriver and trying to snap the third prong over the coin, similar to mounting a tire on a bicycle rim.
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 Posted 11/28/2013  12:35 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add RUSH2112 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I was researching different coin graders last year and asked PCGS via email, if they wore gloves to handle coins and astonishingly, the answer was no. Since that answer, I have never sent a coin away, to anyone, to be graded.

I would however, put my trust in ANACS, they seem like a decent group of people running the business but their new coin holders are not the most appealing to me.
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 Posted 11/28/2013  12:48 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add SsuperDdave to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply

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I was researching different coin graders last year and asked PCGS via email, if they wore gloves to handle coins and astonishingly, the answer was no. Since that answer, I have never sent a coin away, to anyone, to be graded.


To my mind that's not necessarily a dealbreaker - you won't catch me handling coins with gloves on either. I'd be surprised if any TPG required their graders to surrender the manual dexterity and feel which gloves impose.
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 Posted 11/28/2013  1:26 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add RUSH2112 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Superdave:

I was referring to tight fitting, thin, un-bleached cotton gloves not welding mitts.

My coin supplies provider carries so there are at least some collectors that use them. It's only common sense not to encase a coin with sweat or any kind of moisture on them.

If you prefer not to, thats fine too.

BTW, they have to be cotton gloves and not polyester as the polyester or nylon gloves will make your hands sweat and defeats the purpose of wearing gloves to begin with.

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There are probably more people who disagree with me than agree, and good arguments can be made either way. If you're a person whose hands are prone to sweat, don't listen to me at all. For me, though, I'd never recommend the loss of traction involved in wearing clean cotton gloves, and the only glove recommendation I'd ever make are latex or nitrile kitchen-style gloves with a tight fit.
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Try posting this story over at the Collectors' Universe forum (PCGS' in-house forum). You'll see how they really roll then, when your thread disappears within a half hour.

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I have now posted this on collectors forum and set the timer

You can stop the timer now; they've deleted the thread. I'm surprised they left it up for over a week. Though I can't tell whether this was a sign of either uncharacteristically deliberate tolerance on their part, or that the World & Ancients forum there is only very thinly patrolled by their moderators.
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No TPG use gloves when handling coins. It's also pretty well known that experienced numismatists rarely use gloves as it increases the likelihood of damaging the coin.
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Count me in the no glove gloves camp as well. If you have clean hands and just hold the edge you wont harm it, plus circulated coins have already been been handled countless times before. Uncirculated coins would be the ones you could make the argument for, but to me the chance of getting lint or dust on a proof from cotton gloves is far greater than touching the meat of the coin. Doctor gloves would reduce that chance, but even then doctors really wear gloves to protect themselves from exposure rather than anything else.
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 Posted 01/26/2014  09:35 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add BluegrassRiver to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
How do you know the coin was not damaged by the coin dealer who sent it or by the Post Office on the way there?
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It was photographed undamaged by the TPG before it was slabbed, and the photo was posted on their website.
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I had the same experience last month except my Peace dollar appeared to be cleaned ultra sonic-ally? They never responded. If so that is not mere negligence but vandalism to intentionally devalue the coin. Also what professionals take an ownership interest in in the clients property? Granted it was a hi population coin but I haven't seen a nicer one, it looked like gold. I'm not totally convinced its the same coin.

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I can understand being upset when they do these things without telling you, but that is definitely the same coin. Look at the mark in front of Liberty's face. It is identical.

I'd recommend selling it. You'll get a premium for being slabbed. I suggest this because I suspect them removing the toning of your coin is going to annoy you every time you look at it. Just get it out of your life and get another one that you are happy with.
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