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Very nice, daltonista!  Errers and Varietys.
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I thought I'd post one of my better Wellies from the Picard's Peninsular series of halfpenny-sized tokens. Nice example! |
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Thanks, guys! You've heard me say before: even though it's a hobby, we work at this.
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Here's another one of my hard-to-find "Anglo-Canadian" tokens, an 1814 penny struck by Thomas Halliday. Although unrecognized by Breton as Canadian, no such reservations were shared by Courteau, Haxby-Williey, Bowman, Ingram, and now Charlton, where it appears in the Lower Canada section just ahead of the Tiffins.Withers 1386a (RRR), Davis 23 (both Non-Local), Courteau 30T, Haxby-Willey 239, Bowman 3, Ingram 30 (R6), Charlton LC-47F1. Speaking of Tiffins, I'm still struggling to come up with attributions for 12-15 of them -- can't match them definitively to the (suboptimal) photos and descriptions in either the current Charlton or the 1999 Withers.
I'd gladly buy a copy of Ingram's 2004 book on Tiffins if I could find one. If any of my fellow forum members could think about perhaps lending it to me, I'd need it for no more than two weeks, max. I'll certainly pay postage both ways, and will include an item or two of exo/numismatic interest to accompany it on the return trip.
DM me, please, to discuss, and many thanks in advance for giving this some consideration!
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Here's another one of my hard-to-find "Anglo-Canadian" tokens, an 1814 penny struck by Thomas Halliday. Excellent! |
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Speaking of Tiffins, I'm still struggling to come up with attributions for 12-15 of them -- can't match them definitively to the (suboptimal) photos and descriptions in either the current Charlton or the 1999 Withers. I've spent the last little while trying to familiarize myself with the series (albeit, spending more time focusing on the crude imitations), and would welcome a post of any pressing examples! |
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Speaking of Tiffins, I'm still struggling to come up with attributions for 12-15 of them -- can't match them definitively to the (suboptimal) photos and descriptions in either the current Charlton or the 1999 Withers. Please post photos. Would be glad to assist in attribution. |
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Many thanks for your kind offer, Gene! I finally realized my problem was trying to nail down attributions for 17 tokens using a book (Charlton) that describes each of the 24 varieties with its own paragraph, all spread out over five pages. And half of those descriptions sent me back to earlier ones to confirm whether I was looking at a matching obverse or reverse. And there are 14 variables to take into account for each token!
So I created a sort of a checklist in Excel in order to more easily rule out some variants while gradually narrowing the field down for each of my tokens. I think I've successfully attributed all of them but will wait until I've photographed them to see what subtle differences I may have missed, if any. Then I'll post a few here to get some input on whether I got any of them right!
Blargish, my Tiffins in question are all imitations...the originals don't present any challenges to speak of, as I've found the photos and descriptors in Charlton to be quite manageable and easy to interpret. But watch this space...
Here's an excerpt from the spreadsheet I cobbled together last week. Those white-on-black cells are instant markers: i.e., look no further. If your token meets that condition you're on the correct row for that LC-48 variety, as there are no others with that feature.
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Thought this would be worth sharing in this context...  A work in progress on the "cruder" Tiffin token imitations. This plate omits Courteau varieties 18-20 with the large date. Also avoids vars. 21-24 which are the original Tiffin issues. |
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Wow! What great information to pass to folks who have a few of them. Great work and the site thanks you.
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Quite an undertaking for Will Lawrence! Thanks for sharing it, blargish. I think it's going to give me another path away from the Charlton tokens book, which strikes me as suboptimal in its approach to attribution of these Imitation Tiffins.
Applying this chart to the token pasted in above, once I was able to firm up my identification of the correct reverse -- "B" using ship size and thigh length -- I could then review the four potential obverses it pairs to, easily nailing down "3" based on double-chin shape and leaf/acorn placement in the wreath. Bottom line, then, is Courteau 4, which translates into Charlton LC-48-4.
Do you think I got it right?
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You're more than welcome okiecoiner and daltonista!
And that is indeed a great-looking example of LC-48-4. That one's generally easy to pick out since it is the only variety using "obv 3" which has a pretty distinctive look.
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 It's that double chin...
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Thanks for posting that die chart @blargish
Nice #4 @daltonista
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Thought this would be worth sharing in this context... Very interesting! |
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