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Inference is not official.  You may be ultimately correct, but it is still too soon to say it is done. Really, we cannot call this one until 2016. I hope that before then, the mint will take the initiative or Congress will pass legislation to remove the ambiguity. |
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Bedrock of the Community
United States
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If Carter dies before the end of June of this year, since his coin would come in the latter half of 2016 it should still satisfy the two year requirement. Quote:
I think I read somewhere that they are required by law to continue the Sacagawea/NA dollars once the Presidential program ends. From the legislation Quote:
(9) Reversion to preceding design.--Upon the termination
of the issuance of coins under this subsection, the design of
all $1 coins shall revert to the so-called `Sacagawea-design' $1
coins.''. I would assume that would be what is now the NA dollars,although they could interpret it to mean ending the NA dollar as well and go back to the Sacagawea and flying eagle designs. |
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It makes more sense for the mint to leave it in question before a decision is made. The design won't take long to put together and they probably don't even need 6 months notice to get it in there if they go with it. I wouldn't expect a decision before next year especially with an election this fall they've probably been told to wait for a new congress to see what they'll do if anything
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If Carter dies before the end of June of this year, since his coin would come in the latter half of 2016 it should still satisfy the two year requirement. When asking about a few things with the mint a few months back the lady I spoke with said that Carter onward would not be made, since Carter was still alive. So it was already decided before the end of last year from what she knew. I guess that means 2 years is by the year, not by the issuance date of the coin itself. Since Carter survived until 2014 it seems that there will be no Reagan. With his trickle-down economics a Reagan dollar would likely just dissolve anyway. Has anyone called the Mint this year to see if they have new news? |
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Interesting. Given the ambiguity in the legislation, I am sure whatever the mint tells any of us is just speculation. We can call three times, get three different representatives, and have three different answers. Those answers being "Yes," "No," and the more honest "I do not know." The mint seems reluctant to act on their own, deferring to Congressional direction. Personally, given the polarized political environment, the Congressional debate over a Reagan dollar is going to be big news in 2016.  Please note: this is not an invitation to discuss our polarized political environment beyond the mere acknowledgment that it exists and affects the outcome. |
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call three times, get three different representatives, and have three different answers That is business for you, the left hand never knows what the right hand is doing. Another thought then would Whitman and the companies like that know since these quarters and dollars and all are to promote products or something like that? If they have to make a book for these things for the US Mint, then Whitman would have to know what holes are needed. Quote:
Living presidents, both current and former, are excluded from the programâ€"thus the roster of presidential honorees currently stands at 37. For these presidents, 38 coins are planned; this is because Grover Cleveland, who to date is the only president to serve multiple nonconsecutive terms, will be represented with two coins. the folder stops at Ford as per the US Mint website schedule Quote:
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37 Richard M. Nixon 1969-1974
38 Gerald Ford 1974-1977 Of course this could all change, but it seems that it has already been decided? |
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Here's the million dollar question:
What are they going to do if Jimmy Carter's wife dies in time to be honored in the First Spouse program?
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The Legislation does not require the spouse to be dead to appear on the First Spouse coin. But if Jimmy doesn't get a dollar coin, then Roselyn will not get a first spouse coin. If Jimmy does die and get a coin then we have the potential for two living first spouse coins.
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Pillar of the Community
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The "no living person on a coin" rule was introduced with the program? I thought it was an existing law that suddenly became relevant for the series. I remember several years back (2006?) that people were calling for Reagan to replace FDR on the dime because he had been dead long enough to qualify.
Either way, this has never been an issue before now since (if my memory serves me) the only living person ever featured on a US coin (excluding models for Liberty or Sacagawea) was on one of the early Commemorative releases--I think it was the coin for Alabama in the 1930s?
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There are four commemorative half dollars feature living persons (at the time of issue)... 1921 Alabama (then current Alabama Governor Kilby), 1926 Sesquicentennial (then President Coolidge), 1936 Lynchburg (then Senator Glass), and 1936 Arkansas (then Senator Robinson). Best option, in my opinion, is to pass legislation authorizing Carter and Reagan dollars. Both political parties are happy.  |
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Don't forget Eunice Kennedy Shriver was living when her portrait was used on the 1995 Special Olympic Commemorative dollar. I think that was written into the authorizing legislation though.
-MV
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There is no overriding law that forbids picturing a living person on the coinage (There is such a law forbidding it on the currency*) As mentioned there have been five occurrences of living persons on the coinage so far, but in the legislation that created the State Quarters, the President dollar, and I believe the ATB Quarters they specifically included a clause forbidding the picturing of a living person/president. But as I said there is nothing in the legislation forbidding a living first spouse from appearing. *Living persons have also appeared on US currency on some of the early notes. The law was passed after 1866. The 5c fractional note of the third series was to show "Lewis and Clark" and Spencer Clark, Chief of the National Currency Bureau, took the opportunity to have HIS portrait appear on the note along with Meriwether Lewis. This upset the elected officials that some lowly appointed official would have his portrait put on the paper money that they passed the law that no living persons image could appear on the currency. Edited by Conder101
03/21/2014 10:51 am
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What will the 2016 proof set look like? Will it have two coins on a single lens, or will they jam them all on the other lens?
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Good question. Since they do sell the Presidential dollar sets on their own, we should assume they would just issue a two coin lens. However, having six coins in one lens has be done more than a few times before (1973~1982 proof sets, 2009 DC/T Quarter Proof sets). |
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For 2016, a three-coin Golden Dollar lens (the Nixon & Ford coins, with a Native American dollar) would make sense. |
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