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1922 No D Type 2 Strong Reverse

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 Posted 12/17/2013  11:01 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add westernsky to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
The red goo almost looks like candle wax.
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That would be nice if it were candle wax. I think the fact that the lighting in the photo is coming from about 10 or 11 o'clock, it's making the second 2 look fatter because of the glare on the left side of the 2. The second 2 should be crisper and slightly skinnier than the first 2, and both of these look the same in the photo. No way to really tell 'til it's in hand.
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Do NOT use olive oil on this coin. I wish people would stop recommending oil on coins. Olive oil contains corrosive acids which will damage the surfaces, alter the color and ruin a copper coin. I've seen it a thousand times.

If you're not comfortable with conservation techniques, I would NOT attempt it. This is potentially a very valuable coin and the conservation is best left to the pros like NCS. I've seen many people absolutely ruin a coin by listening to BAD internet advice. Don't let it happen to you.

If you decide to do anything, ALWAYS follow the solvent polarity ladder. Read:

http://www.lincolncentresource.net/....php?t=24220
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If I'm not mistaken, the only no D die with a strong reverse is #2.


Yes, it is. This is a good reference guide:

http://www.lincolncentresource.com/...rieties.html
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So get this.....I had a couple of questions about the coin which I won yesterday, so I called the auction. Ended up speaking to the owner of the auction, and we went over this coin with a fine tooth comb. BadThad, you helped because you noticed the very weak TRUST, and I definitely had questions about the outside "2." After careful review of the coin he agreed that it didn't look like a Die 2 obverse, and that he even saw some junk where the mint mark should be. BINGO!! I'll almost guarentee that it is a Weak D that someone tried to remove. That's why the reverse and obverse don't agree. He said that he would send it out to NGC for authentication. He said I could even have the slab if it verifies.....can't ask for more than that.
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Sorry about the bad advice on the oil I had no idea it was that bad for coin conservation. @BadThad thanks for all the helpful information and the link.
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Yes, I've used The Lincoln Cent Source to learn about these. It confirms that the ONLY possibility for a Strong Reverse is the Die 2. So the only real question for NGC (besides Details, Environmental Damage, etc,) is, "Is it a Strong Reverse or not"? And the other side of that statement is, 'If it is a Strong Reverse, it HAS to be a Die 2 no D,' and CAN"T BE ANYTHING ELSE regardless of what the obverse looks like unless someone altered the date on the coin. Does anybody think it might be a Weak Reverse with full wheats etc? I've never seen one. Hope I didn't talk myself out of a nice coin. He had the raw coin in front of him and I only had average photos. I'm not a big gambler though and I think my questions were legit. Ed
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