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Error Coin 1995 Weary Dunlop 50c Stamped Onto 20c Piece

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 Posted 12/26/2013  4:29 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add ozcoins to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
There does seem to be a large difference between the 2 coins...
It appears that the OPs coin is a fair bit larger diameter than Mark's coin - based on the edge of Mark's coin just touching the tip of 'A' in Australia and cutting through 'Elizabeth'.
Compare those parts of the design on the OP's coin....
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 Posted 12/26/2013  4:30 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add trout1105 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply

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The OP's coin looks quite genuine too Trout.

I honestly have my doubts about the "OP's" coin.
There is absolutely NO distortion of the design on both sides as would be expected for an undersized planchet.
I imagine that the pressure would be set higher on the 50 cent press than the 20 cent press due to the larger surface area of the coins to be minted.
I would expect some metal flow effect to be apparent because the planchet wouldn't have a collar to restrict it from spreading.
None of this is apparent on the op's coin
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 Posted 12/26/2013  4:45 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add deathandwar to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
sorry guys the photos I sent are the same as I posted, I will ask some of my colleagues if they can help with better photos
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 Posted 12/26/2013  5:11 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Basil to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply

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I honestly have my doubts about the "OP's" coin.


Yeah,I'm 50/50 on both coins shown but don't know enough about minting processes to have a firm opinion.The only thing I can say is the only 2 examples I've seen of this error(back in the 1970's) is both strikes on the smaller planchet were off centre.
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 Posted 12/26/2013  5:16 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add ozcoins to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Do you have access to a scanner?
A scanner would remove lots of possible problems with using a camera (eg focus, lighting, shaking etc)
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 Posted 12/26/2013  5:47 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add markn to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
There is clear fishtailing all over that coin which is a 100% indicator of unconstrained metal flow. Look at the bottom of the ELI of Elizabeth. The weight is spot on. The rim is formed exactly as you'd expect if the planchet was offset in the die when it was struck. And it's thinner than a 20c too. All indicators of a genuine error. Plus these sorts of errors are quite well known, and while not common, they do come up from time to time.

As to the coin being a larger diameter than mine...that's obviously explained by my coin having a lower striking pressure than the OP's. That's further backed up by his being beautifully struck up and mine showing a lot of weakness.

I admire your caution with calling this coin an error but I can assure you it's quite real. I'd swap it for mine in a heartbeat.
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 Posted 12/29/2013  12:08 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add deathandwar to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
wouldnt of thought of using the scanner, well done hopefully these are a lot clearer

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 Posted 12/29/2013  12:56 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add markn to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Very nice scans, that coin is a beaut.
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 Posted 12/29/2013  01:45 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add The Unicorn to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Great scans! I really like the 9 o'clock to 1 o'clock rim on the obverse, really impressive with the curves etc. Where did you happen to come by this coin d&w and the $2 error also? They are both great errors.

btw: to CCF!
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 Posted 12/29/2013  04:00 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add deathandwar to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
found the fifty in my change about 3 years back , thought it looked like it wasnt deliberate so I hoarded it away, found the $2 6 months ago in change, showed our local coin dealer in darwin mall, he offered $200 straight off the boot
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 Posted 12/29/2013  06:48 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add enworb to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Its worth a heck of a lot more than $200!
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 Posted 12/29/2013  07:12 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add robster to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Look fabulous from this side of the screen.!!
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 Posted 12/29/2013  08:16 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add ozcoins to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
The scans turned out well.
Looks like a great error to me!
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 Posted 12/29/2013  5:05 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add The Unicorn to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
You are certainly lucky to have found both in your change. Neither coin appears to have any significant circulation wear. Top stuff!
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 Posted 12/29/2013  7:02 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add jpl to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Would have to say Well Done
Please let us Know when the RAM get's back to you, I'm sure they will have something to Say & I'm sure all of us Here would like to Know as well!?!? jpl..
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