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1925 Penny Help Please

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 Posted 03/21/2014  06:55 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add awallin01 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Hello :), I find that odd too. If I had purchased a coin, then sold & refunded the money. I would want my coin back, if however to play devils advocate I knew the coin was fake upon sale and I got it for a nominal amount in the first place-I suppose I wouldn't want it back because it would be more hassle than it's worth.

Have you messaged the seller about a sending it back? If they are not replying, you may well be correct about them building up positive feedback on rare coins. Thus luring people in. However when selling an item, the seller has to pay ebay and paypal selling fees. This would leave this guy out of pocket, unless he has been getting away with some substantial sales of counterfeit coins to make it worth his while. I'd message the seller and try and sort out sending it back, if not I would be inclined to think you're correct about what is going on and this would need to be reported to better protect others from buying similar items.
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 Posted 03/21/2014  07:11 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add sweetap to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
He had to pay the fees as he tried to get me to cancel the transaction but I refused so he had to pay.

I felt bad but if I didn't I would have had the case closed and he wouldn't have to pay me back and if I left it 7 days it would automatically close and end the transaction giving me no leg with PP or ebay so I had to refuse.

He was a bit upset but just said don't worry about it. He should not of requested to end transaction before refunding.
If I had my money I would have cancelled the transaction for him.
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 Posted 03/21/2014  07:26 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add awallin01 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Don't feel bad about the seller paying any fees, the seller should of made sure they were selling the correct item. It can be a lesson learnt for the seller. And you took all the correct steps in covering yourself, which is the main thing.

I'd just try and contact the seller about the return, but if it is not wanted. That would arouse suspicion personally, and I would seek advice on reporting this to ebay. Just to see if this is an isolated incident, or a recurring theme. The actions of the seller have definitely not helped them.
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 Posted 03/21/2014  07:33 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add shanew to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
if you don't have to send it back destoy it drill a hole so no other fool gets stuck with it
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 Posted 03/21/2014  6:28 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add sweetap to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Hi awallin thank you for replying. yeh I no I probably shouldn't feel bad but he did return my money and he seem to really want to fix everything up, I just cant stop thinking there's some other motive he has. You been really good helping out awallin I'm very privileged.

Shane your right I will take it in to the shed next week and bash it to death if he don't claim it back. I do not want someone to get caught out like me. I have noticed a few more of these fakes on ebay.

Do they fake florins as well, I hope not cause I have quite a few.



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 Posted 03/21/2014  6:31 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add trout1105 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply

Quote:
Do they fake florins as well, I hope not cause I have quite a few.


OH Yes, Mainly 34-35 centenary coins and 1932 coins.
There are others as well
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 Posted 03/21/2014  6:45 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add awallin01 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Yeah unfortunately there are counterfeits of many coinage :(, here in the UK we have about 2.5-5% fake £1 coins circulating 0-0. Yet alone, nice collector coins. If you would like piece of mind with anything, just add the pics on here if you want someone to check them over. However there is this site that shows some of the differences between 1926-31 http://www.triton.vg/Manders.html This will help train the eye for some scarily minor detail differences.

I nearly bid for a fake ancient yesterday, the guys on here told me that were it said copy the guy had scratched it off to look like damage :/ . If you have any doubts, let it be known on here :).
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 Posted 03/21/2014  10:38 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add sweetap to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Sheeez thanks guys now I am a little concerned though.

Thank you for the link I will check it out.

Does anyone do anything about the counterfeiting that is going on or is it just buyer beware. Thanks again guys.
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 Posted 03/25/2014  12:29 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add serial to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
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 Posted 03/25/2014  07:08 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add sweetap to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Hi serial I don't know because the link appears incorrect.
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 Posted 03/25/2014  07:30 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add awallin01 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Sorry for late reply, regarding the counterfeiting unfortunately they're overly prevalent on most selling sites. Best protection is to buy from reputable sellers, compare the coins, if the price seems to good-it probably is. Unfortunately only the other day on here, someone showed a link of some quite valuable Morgan dollars for sale. The picture was a genuine coin, but the seller is a chinese scammer-who doesn't even send the coins :(. It's a real shame that even some pictures can't be trusted, and how rife these counterfeits are. Many collections may even possess them aswell :(, one guy was selling a counterfeit the other day and the tag was at $1800.00 0-0 current bid.

Definitely a case of buyer beware, if you ever need any eyes to double check a coin out. Ask on here, ;).
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