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 Posted 07/23/2007  10:40 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Prethen to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
You might want to try the Taco Bell napkin experiment...go to the PCGS boards and search for Taco Bell. I can't put the link here for some reason.

I have a dipped out 1921 Morgan dollar that I'm AT'ing by putting in an envelope and placing on my window sill. It's taking forever. It's just gaining this slight ugly yellowish tone. I might have to try the napkin thing, too.
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 Posted 07/23/2007  3:37 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Amazon99 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Benji: I guess you've used this product before, any tips?

Gee duyba75: Not sure if I'll use this one because I don't want to stink up my house with rotting eggs, unless I could put it in the freezer. How long does it take for the effect to happen? If it's a day or two then that's ok.

Prethen: How long have you had the morgan in the envelope for? I was thinking of doing that too, but if it takes too long, I might try to figure a way out to get it to tone faster. I'm going to search the taco bell experience on PCGS.
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 Posted 07/23/2007  4:06 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add laxmaster92 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Taco bell napkins dont work, its a joke.
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 Posted 07/23/2007  4:48 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Amazon99 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Huh? I went on the PCGS board on it looks like it does...
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 Posted 07/23/2007  5:17 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add lonnie to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Another method that works on silver coins is to get a teaspoon or other suitable containerand fill it with motor oil. Put the coin in the oil, then using some sort of heat source, like a butane torch, heat the oil until it boils. You will get some really nice golden to light brown toning.

Oh yeah, weight of oil is your choice.

One other method is just to lay a coin on a sunny window seal.

Best yet, natural method though is to get an old Wayte Raymond album, insert the coins, then forget about them for a year or two.
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 Posted 07/23/2007  5:59 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Amazon99 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Would gas work? I was thinking about using gas, but I sucked at chemistry so I don't know if it will work or not.
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 Posted 07/23/2007  6:03 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Prethen to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I didn't think the Taco Bell napkin thing was a joke either.

I've had it in the envelope for about 6 months now. It could take years.
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About the taco bell napkin...I guess we'll find out for sure when I do it.
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 Posted 07/23/2007  8:46 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add laxmaster92 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Why would a taco bell napkin work? What about a mcdonalds napkin. Really I dont think there is sulphur or anything that would provoke toning in them.
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 Posted 07/23/2007  8:54 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add chrsb to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
the Taco Bell napkins are different, they are brown and made of something different then the regular napkins.
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I know what taco bell napkins look like. But the silver kennedy I have had in a taco bell napking for the past 2yrs has not changed since.
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 Posted 07/25/2007  1:54 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add bobby131313 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Let's ask the professor the best way to tone a coin. He knows everything.
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I don't like the gas idea, since it's a mix of chemicals and additives, some carcinogens, stuff that could leave residues, won't be the same the next time you get more, and stinks real bad.

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This topic piques my interest. I truly enjoy a naturally toned coin ... dark at the edges and a rainbow of colors that lighten towards the center of the coin ... album toning for sure. The artificial process tends to leave the entire coin looking like it lost in a paintball exchange. My wife has silver pieces and a sterling silver spoon collection in a china cabinet. The toning on these pieces (they've haven't been cleaned in about two years) is the same as the intense natural toning I've seen on these beautiful coins. I have half a mind (better not stop the sentence here) to put a few choice Unc Walkers and Franklins in there behind the silver pieces on stands to see if they will tone like the other pieces in the cabinet. I'll let you all know in two years.
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 Posted 07/26/2007  09:37 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add just carl to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Carl,
Since ive been have trouble getting any kind of nice colors what do you reccommend to get the best color on a clad coin?

In reality this is not an easy question. I've had some decent luck with household dish soaps. Placing a coin in that and allowing to dry on a table outdoors. The problem with this method is the dishsoap. Almost every manufacturer has a different formulae. Even the same manufacturer may change substances occatioinally. Even the same bottle purchased with another may differ substantially due to manufacturing processes with formulae tolerances in quantity.
The main thing is the coin must be fairly clean so that any oily type substances, your body oils for example, do NOT protect the coin from toning. I've had the hardest times with clad Quarters for some reason. Noting that Nickel, Silver, Copper like any metal, reacts differently in different situations.
Always remember though that the main ingrediants in such experiments is usually humidity and heat. If using heat, do it gradually so as not to leave burn marks. If you have any Alcohol you may want to try puting some in a can, lighting it, and holding a coin with a tweezers, run it though those flames. Of course eggs works well but it would be only the yolk that has the distructive powers.
Lay a piece of meat outside and place a coin on it for a day or so.

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