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Type II Counterclashes On Canadian Quarters

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 Posted 04/13/2014  4:31 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add castor to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Hello Sir Diamond

I often study defect on coin that are sent to me by members of http://www.numicanada.com/

This coin I have not in hand unfortunately because it would have made me happy to send to you.

I did the same studies for parts of July and September.

I do not think it is possible that is the "Counterclash Type II" for these errors.

For me there is only the method of hobbing work by the "Working hub" that can give these results the mentioned month.

I put pictures of what I see and believe possible for July and September.


Photos for December are in the links is in the other message. You will notice that there are three coins with defect from three different die.

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 Posted 04/13/2014  5:13 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add mikediamond to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
It is a pity you do not have a specimen. I will keep my eyes open for one. While there is admitted weakness in the counterclash theory, an errant hubbing is even more fraught with difficulty. A misligned hubbing on a first attempt is seemingly impossible, given the cone-shaped face of the blank working die. A faint hubbing on a second attempt is also seemingly impossible, since the extra elements are as wide or even wider than the normal elements. Faintly hubbed elements should be quite a bit thinner. The highly localized nature of some of these extra elements is also difficult to reconcile with a hubbing mishap, especially those that come from the periphery of the design.
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 Posted 04/15/2014  12:33 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add mysterious_dr_x to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
The 4 different coins have this phenomena happening on the reverse. I have yet to see one on the obverse. Any hypothesis as to why that might be?
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I haven't got a clue. United States counterclashes have been found on both faces.
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 Posted 04/15/2014  2:16 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Alexer to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Interesting read great post

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I have yet to see one on the obverse.

Could any of this have to do with improperly annealed die's (reverse)?
just asking thanks

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I read in the initial article Mike dosent know of any kind of metal that is stiff enough and yet able to flow, What about a combination of the metal with a improperly made die. If the die was a little softer than normal what could happen in this scenario?
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Here is a counterclash, showing the date on a 2008 Canadian 1-cent. Unfortunately, it is not my coin, so I cannot provide better photos...

http://numicanada.com/forum/viewtop...f=22&t=21720

Also, Google Translate will work wonders for you Mike
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 Posted 04/15/2014  3:14 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add mikediamond to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Impressive. Thanks for alerting us to this find.
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