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 Posted 05/08/2014  12:50 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add lod254 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Wildwinds has me confident in the Ptolemy I now. After checking Alexander III mints, it makes me think the silver is posthumous. I think it's the one right at the top of the list.
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Iod254, you may want to bookmark this site for Ptolemaic coins: http://www.ptolemybronze.com/

If your computer can run Java, there is an attribution program which can narrow things down.

There are also links to the entirety of Svoronos (text and plates).

If I recall correctly, more recent scholarship shuffles his attributions a bit (some Ptolemy III are now considered IV, for instance). I may be wrong about this though.

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Using the attribution program from the above mentioned website, the V-coins example you linked would be Ptolemy II, not Ptolemy I.

Also, the dealer incorrectly described the obverse as "Head of Alexander the Great r., clad in lion's skin with horn of Zeus-Amoon above " when it is actually the head of Alexander wearing an elephant skin headdress. If that is a gamma between the eagle's legs, and seeing no field markings, the V-coins example is Svoronos 482.

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These ancient coins are proving to be quite tricky.

Staying under $100 each, does anyone have great and positive examples of a Ptolemy I bronze with Alexander's portrait as well as an Alexander III lifetime issue? I'm ok with bronze or silver and would honestly prefer test cuts if they're there.

As many examples as you find would be awesome.

I'm not sure if you guy's like to window shop for others, but it'd be appreciated.

Cool Bronze examples I've seen. Delta above the bow should always be lifetime, as well as E under the quiver, and eagle, or a horse with no rider. First two are prefered as they're 4chok bs 2chok on the latter 2.
https://www.vcoins.com/en/stores/ce...Default.aspx
https://www.vcoins.com/en/stores/ae...Default.aspx
https://www.vcoins.com/en/stores/ro...Default.aspx

Ptolemy I
None yet besides that one bronze that is apparently a Ptolemy II. I'm not sure of what markers determined that difference though.
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If you go to the auction aggregator site, http://www.sixbid.com, and type "Ptolemy I" in the search box (upper right) there are a couple low grade bronzes with the head of Alexander coming up (opening bids 15 EUR) I didn't look carefully at them to see if the attributions looked correct.
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Iod254... I am finding some things which may be of high interest to you but I don't want to post current auctions on a public forum (may foil someone's bidding plans). When I click your name, it says you do not wish to receive emails. If you can change that status I will send you some links.
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