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I'm Thinking Of Getting A Fireproof Safe For My Coins, But..

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 Posted 05/12/2014  08:22 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add h1cks to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I have a safe and to help with the moisture issues:

#1 I put the coins in a baggy and inside the baggy I add a silicon desiccant pack.
#2 Also use a desiccant canister that sits in the safe. I use the pack / canister that changes color as it is used up.

I found the packs on Amazon, and the canister at Bass Pro next to their gun safes. Guns have similar issues as coins regarding humidity.

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 Posted 05/12/2014  08:56 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add westernsky to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Anything to help with the moisture problems helps your coins. Damp, stagnate air is not good for most collectibles. Best bet is to also remove the moisture with a dehumidifier in the area near your safe. Check your coins every few months. Another option is a safe deposit box at your bank. Yeah, inconvenient but safer than a safe at home. Like I told my friend who bought a humongous safe a few years ago when he was worried about robberies: "I don't care how big your safe is, if a thief wants it bad enough he'll get in it, one way or another. And some of those one way or anothers can be real bad".
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 Posted 05/12/2014  09:48 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add frodo to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
i have a safe that I keep my guns in. I have researched the very thing you are concerned with. I am providing a link
to midway usa.. the same thing can be purchased at Walmart in the gun aisle
http://ads.midwayusa.com/product/93...oductFinding
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 Posted 05/20/2014  11:07 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Westwood Arms to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
If a pro safe cracker hits...game over.
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 Posted 05/20/2014  11:22 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add jack jeckel to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Make sure you have a descant of some sort to avoid moisture problems.

That said I keep my valuables in Sentry Fire Safes.

According to what is said online they are Fire Resistant but not so much theft resistant and can be cut open with a circular saw and if you have a new digital keypad you can swap them out.

That being said your house is also not safe due to a bump key either unless you have a $150 dual angle door knob but your windows are still glass so it doesn't really matter.

If someone wants what you own they will find a way to take it.






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 Posted 05/21/2014  12:16 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Libertad to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I always say hide your valuables in plain sight, disguised as something else or inside a cheap object. Safes are for show, as decoys, so put dummy valuables in your safe or lead shot to weight it down. One crowbar to the exposed hinge and your stuff is gone. That's my take on that.
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That's one take on it. I disagree but to each his own.
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You can buy fire and waterproof safes at your local Sams club.

If you want to prevent moisture buildup.. stick them in a zip lock bag with one or two folded paper towels, and moisture in the bag will got to the towels. It's cheap and very effective.
Some people I know have used rice instead of a paper towel, rice will absorb a ton of moisture. It's water and fire proof so no insects..
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 Posted 05/22/2014  12:38 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add edweather to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Two weeks ago I purchased a small safe from Home Depot. They have a good selection. Used my Capital One points to get a $50 Home Depot gift card, and saved 10% by opening a credit card account with Home Depot. Total cost was about $100, and the safe has a fire and water rating. I will be bolting it to the floor. As a bit of a decoy I turned the box it came in inside out, and put it right back on top of it in the closet. Will be writing on the box, "For GOODWILL, head lice and old flea infested clothing." Probably not much of a deterrent, but better than nothing. I feel my "stuff" is safer than it was without the safe.
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The big box home improvement and sports equipment stores are a decent place to get a reasonably-priced safe if you want to lock up your .22 long gun and keep your kids from getting at your Playboy stash. However they aren't much for theft deterrent or fire protection (relatively).

Bolting them down, as edweather said, is very important and increases their theft protective value substantially. Most thieves would prefer to roll your safe out and crack it on their own turf rather than hack at it in your house while the cops are on their way.

Consider what the value is of what you're trying to protect. Then do your research and spend the appropriate money. Think of it like auto insurance. No one likes to pay it but it's part of driving a car. And you typically tailor your insurance to what you're willing to pay vs what you're willing to lose. Similar with a safe but in a one-time payment. Also, layer your protection. Get a security system if you're going to have a safe. Yes it takes the cops a while to show up sometimes, but if your safe is bolted down and has a good T rating, it's likely that it'll still be locked and standing when the cops get there and chase the idiots off (or hopefully arrest them).

Also, you may be better off taking advantage of a free bank safe deposit box that comes with many checking accounts if your stash is relatively small. Or even if you have to pay $20/month for a bigger box, how long would that take to pay for a $2000 safe? Answer: 100 months. That's a long time. And you'll likely move at least once in 8 years.
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 Posted 05/22/2014  05:35 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add frodo to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
moving a safe is not as hard as the stories you hear
I bought my safe..16 gun safe
I picked it up in a van...they loaded it
when I got home I pulled the van up to the steps going into the house..i used a 2x12 as a ramp from van to porch
drug, pushed the safe along/up the board onto the porch
then I stood it up, put a dolly under it..strapped it to the dolly rolled it into the walk in closet
I bolted it to the framing of the house..installed a clothes rod above the safe..hung clothes on the rod
the dirty clothes hamper sits in front of it
on the floor..you can not see it..
i did not need help,,,or to hire it out..
another bit of advice on a fire proof safe
it is insulated, your valuables are safe inside during a fire..IF....after the fire...do not open the safe till all cools down it needs to get acclimated . if door opens before then all will perish
thats what the pamphlet says
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Your home safe is in place to prevent the amateurs from getting at your stuff. It will stop the neighborhood kids, the nosy ex wife and may save your stuff from a fire.

The professional is a whole other story. If the professional wants your stuff he will get it. You may slow him down but he'll eventually get in to it. You may even be more than happy to open it for him, too.
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 Posted 05/22/2014  3:46 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add h1cks to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
It is like a burglar alarm. The statistics state that just having the sign out front discourages the majority of thieves. If you want to discourage the Danny Ocean gang you will have to think a lot bigger.
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 Posted 05/23/2014  01:57 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add burks to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I keep mine with my guns. Lots of moisture absorption products and such. Half the safe is guns, the other half coins. They never mix.
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*bump*

Rollsearcher, you've not mentioned what you decided to do (which may be part of your maximum security plan). If not part of your security plan, I'd like to hear what you ended up with.

Lots of good advice here. Hope it helped.
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