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Petitioner To Bank Of Canada: Need More Women On Bank Notes

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 Posted 10/13/2014  10:50 pm Show Profile   Bookmark this topic Add skip79 to your friends list Get a Link to this Message Number of Subscribers
I just read this article: http://www.cbc.ca/1.2795349

I'd like to hear the views of fellow group members, considering we collectively, are the ones who likely have more interest than anyone on this topic.

I look forward to spirited, respectful, and honest views on this thread.

What say you?
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 Posted 10/13/2014  10:56 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add doubleeagle59 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
It's my sincere intention not to offend anyone, but I really don't get my feathers ruffled with such non-issues.

Seems in today's world, there's always someone or some 'group' that's getting offended by what's out there in society.

Life is too short and I'd rather go about it minding my own business.
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 Posted 10/13/2014  11:46 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add skip79 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I agree. Nowadays there are too many people on stand-by waiting to be offended. But I'm interested in hearing the perspective of fellow collectors who may have a keen interest on current & historical designs of paper currency.
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 Posted 10/14/2014  12:32 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add ASLAN TVorlon to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Every Canadian coin has a womans face on it, right? Maybe there needs to be a petition to get a man's face on the coins!

I Vote for William Shatner!
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 Posted 10/14/2014  01:23 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add tripoli to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
What women are going to see the notes anyway? They all use credit cards to spend.
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 Posted 10/14/2014  01:34 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Altaira to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
If people are going to argue about faces on banknotes, I think we should just remove the portraits of the dead people and go back to the allegorical figures. No shortage of female figures there, half of the allegorical figures were female. The other side will have the living members of the royal family like it was in 1935.

Speaking as a female I think the feminist movement is starting to go too far now. I appreciate the effort so far, but they need to know when it's enough. There are just some inequalities between the two genders that we just have to accept.

tripoli, don't stereotype. I use cash so that I can get coins, my debit card barely gets used when I started collecting seriously. Plus, I don't have a credit card yet, (I'm not old enough) and I don't like the idea of it, feels like taking a loan from a bank.
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 Posted 10/14/2014  01:40 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add ASLAN TVorlon to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply

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I look forward to spirited, respectful, and honest views on this thread.



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They all use credit cards to spend.


Let's put that one into the honest catagory

Spirited too, because people are turning more and more to cards and not using bank notes as much.

That was quite funny tripoli and I'm not saying it was dis-respectful just a friendly reminder let's not turn this thread mean
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 Posted 10/14/2014  01:50 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add AgCoinAu to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
There has been plenty of f/m dipected on our notes..
1935 $1 - on the back..
1935 $2 - Queen on the front... Queen Mary?
1935 $10
1935 $20 (Queen Liz @ a very young age)
1935 $25
1935 $100 I think there's an allogory with a f/m depiction on the back of this note as well...

1937 I think the $1, $2 & $20 have a f/m allogary

1954 ALL have the queen on 'em

1970's multi coloured issue the $1, $2 and $20 have the queen on 'em

1980's birds series the $2, $20 and $1000 had the queen on 'em

2004-06 series the queen was still on the $20... there was a f/m soldier on the back of the $10

Current series.. Queen is still on the $10 and there's a f/m scientist on the back of the $100...


I have no problems with the state of our notes...

I think the people that may be quick to complain about the lack of females may also be quick to dismiss our history. Most of the notes and the "other men" depicted on the notes are all past prime ministers, who have led our country and helped make it what a great nation that it is today. It's actually a sad state for our own history and educational system when I have to say that only b/c of my interest in bills did I ever take the time to learn some of the faces and names of those men who have made it on our currency.

Now given that really only recently (in the last 20-30 years) have f/m's started to take up some very prominant roles in politics.. We probably won't get another f/m face on our currency with the exception to our queen... I see currency probably becoming non-existant before a f/m prime minister will get such recognition on our currency... And to be honest I'm okay with that... If there is another series of notes that come out in the next 10 years I would personally like our currency to say more about us as a nation and what we value and are known for.. and perhaps a little less about past leaders...
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 Posted 10/14/2014  02:04 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add CC-Ottawa to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply

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What women are going to see the notes anyway? They all use credit cards to spend.


Not in my world. If I have 10 bucks in cash it's rare. I use credit everywhere. On the other hand, my wife carries hundreds in cash all the times. She gets twitchy if she has less than $100 in cash.

But as for women on notes, it much ado about nothing IMO. I also think notes have a limited shelf life.
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10/14/2014 02:06 am
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 Posted 10/14/2014  09:15 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Harmonica to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
What about Ukraine-Canadians? or African Loyalists that later went on to build Sierra Leone?

I think we need to start seeing people as people and not races and sexes.
When the new batch of bills come out if they think they need to put more women/sikhi/aboriginals or what have you on them fine, what ever, but don't go making an issue about it.

Being born and raised in New Brunswick a lot of Canadian things are just not important to me. Is the totem pole a symbol of Canada? Absolutely! Does it mean anything to me? No!

The idea or "Canadian Identity" is a hard one to fathom considering how huge and diverse we are, that is why I like trade tokens, you get to see what is important to the locals of an area, not what the government thinks is important to you.

Plus as has already been pointed out our bills are chopped full of estrogen!
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The petitioner is forgetting that the astronaut on the $5, the train conductor on the $10, the ship captain on the $50 are all women, not to mention the obvious ones on the $20 and $100. What am I missing here? (*Returns to collecting coins with female monarch*)

Frankly, I think grizzlies are under-represented. It bears to reason!
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10/14/2014 2:02 pm
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 Posted 10/14/2014  7:11 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Osiris to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I can think of quite a few Canadian women I'd like to see on our paper currency:

Pamela Anderson
Trish Stratus
Paulina Gretzky
Nina Dobrev
Mila Kunis
Avril Lavigne

The list could go on...

Oh, did you mean portraits?
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 Posted 10/14/2014  7:46 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Fixguy to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I would like to see more pinks and mauve perhaps a bit of pastels? Maybe a plaid coin? Honestly with all that's going on today this strikes me as petty and misguided. I've only ever had a woman monarch on my currency since birth so forgive me as I
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 Posted 10/14/2014  8:36 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add skip79 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I must say, this was a very interesting and entertaining thread, especially when reading it all at once.

I'm certainly a proud Canadian: of our national heritage, our land, the significance of the constitutional monarchy, and the notable Canadian achievements throughout history. As such, I enjoy seeing these various elements depicted on our currency.

But then of course, someone, some where, some how gets their nose out of joint and cries fowl because they don't feel included. However, I don't support any initiative whatsoever that seeks to diversify the perception of accomplishments by Canadians (essentially re-writing history) so that certain interest groups feel represented. Sure, Agnus McPhail was the first female MP elected to the House of Commons, but many people were elected MPs way before her, and no, that does not mean she should have equal prominence on our currency as that of Sir John A MacDonald, a founding father of this country.

The point is, we've become far too politically correct and it's getting way out of hand. With the emergence of social media, people with nothing better to do will sit in standby mode waiting for some perceived injustice so that it can be blown out of proportion.

Now I'll get off my soap box and speak as a collector. If the Bank of Canada decides to redraft bank note designs (despite their questionable future mortality rate), I'd personally like it if we reverted back to the old school designs of the 1937 or 1970s series; when our money looked like currency, and not the tacky play-money designs we use today. Limiting the faces to those of notable past PMs and the reigning monarch in my view would be ideal.
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 Posted 10/14/2014  9:20 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Petersun to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
First, I feel that it really isn't necessary to have a 50/50 split between male portraits and female portraits. Trying to fix gender equality issue numerically is too mechanical and wouldn't really reflect anything about the nation's general values.

Now, the people that are on our banknotes are really those that have contributed to the development of this nation and the development of the world. it is very true that many women from the past did not have access to the general rights that the male citizens did (particularily education). The good thing is, this situation has been improving since the early 20th century, and the feminist movement must be praised for that. When women start to participate more in the nation's developmental issues, eventually more and more of them will start to appear on banknotes. This is the most natural way to have more female protraits on banknotes, and the idealistic 50/50 can be approximatively reached.
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Another vested interest, who really cares ,ho hum, politically correct, non issue. If you wish to see women on coins and banknotes all the time , carry pocket change and twenties. Hmm that brings up my pet peeve. Why the heck is royalty still on our coins and bank notes ? !!
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