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Emptying My Wallet For $100 Devil's Face

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 Posted 11/11/2014  12:22 pm Show Profile   Bookmark this topic Add Shoeplier to your friends list Get a Link to this Message Number of Subscribers
I came across a local listing of a collector selling a few international bills and a couple Canadian. One of them is a nice-looking $100 Devil's Face Coyne-Towers bill. I am hesitant to post the picture on their listing, just in case that is not allowed on the forum for copyright, etc. A sticker on the sleeve says "UNC", but I would have to see the bill in person. There appears to be no folds. What would be a reasonable price to offer if is UNC, and what if it is AU?
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 Posted 11/11/2014  12:35 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add 47P7 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Reasonable? $ 100 until you have item in hand to examine. then , have the seller send it for grading, just to be sure.
recently sent one I thought was MS, also devils face. cam back as a EF45.
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 Posted 11/11/2014  1:35 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Altaira to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Be careful. EF notes with very little handling, especially if they don't have any major folds, can look UNC at a glance.
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 Posted 11/11/2014  1:53 pm  Show Profile   Check Pacificoin's eBay Listings Bookmark this reply Add Pacificoin to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
don't do it ! Buy a certified one if you really think you want one !
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 Posted 11/11/2014  2:02 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add tripoli to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
For the amount of money involved, buy a certified one. Are you able to tell if it's been pressed, therefore not original or EPQ?
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 Posted 11/11/2014  3:01 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Vancouver IslandCoinKid to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Yes be careful, do not pay full price until certified!
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 Posted 11/11/2014  3:21 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Petersun to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
A raw bill of this value needs to be certified, unless you're paying half of the trend.
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 Posted 11/11/2014  3:41 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Shoeplier to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Thanks for your advice. I will ask the seller if they can send it for certification. I am new to grading notes so I probably wouldn't trust myself to do it right. I would definitely want to see the bill in person before I even make an offer.
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 Posted 11/11/2014  11:25 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add arianzo to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Paying $100-$110 you're safe.
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How much is the seller asking for the note? When it comes to UNC, it can be UNC, Choice UNC, or GEM UNC.

According to the Charlton catalog, a Coyne-Towers signature $100 Devil's Face, is valued at $900, $1100, $1500 for UNC, CH UNC, GEM UNC.
For the Beattie-Coyne signature the prices are $1150, 1450, 1850.

I doubt you could get if for $100-110 if it is really UNC.
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 Posted 11/12/2014  12:41 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Alexer to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I agree with the advise said here.


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I am hesitant to post the picture on their listing,

Copy and paste us a link
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 Posted 11/12/2014  11:27 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add AgCoinAu to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
MoneyPenny: Those prices in Charltons.... You will find at most shows are competitive at 60-80% of Charlton prices..
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 Posted 11/13/2014  8:04 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Shoeplier to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Thanks for your responses. I was just asking because I thought I might get a deal if the seller didn't have lots of information on it. The seller has no listed price but a sticker on the sleeve in the photo says $210.

http://www.kijiji.ca/v-art-collecti...onFlag=true#

I hope this link works.
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 Posted 11/13/2014  8:14 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Altaira to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Shieplier, I would not buy it with a picture like that. You can only see one corner - and it has a bump on it. IMO the bill has been in a wallet. I can see down the middle (under "Bank" from "Canadian Bank Note Company Limited) that there's a backward fold, characteristic of a light wallet fold.
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 Posted 11/14/2014  12:00 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add arianzo to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
There is not way that banknote is UNC, maybe a XF or XF-.

Having said that, the seller has very interesting stuff.

That $100 specimen
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 Posted 11/14/2014  01:59 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add AgCoinAu to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Those two spec notes are actually very nice!..

I would agree that this is NOT UNC and is at best AU50 or EF +..

I also like the Royal Bank of Canada $10 note.. while it looks like it has been wet pressed... all in all it's very clean and appealing..
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