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What this coin lacks in quality it makes up for in history. Struck in Phoenicia under emperor Elagabalus, the reverse depicts Queen Dido overseeing the construction of Carthage. It's a fascinating story of a legendary woman.

The abbreviated version:

Born to Tyrian King, the beautiful Dido (also known as Elissa) was to be co-heir with her younger brother Pygmalion. Upon the king's death, however, Pygmalion was made sole ruler. Dido married her rich uncle Acerbas (also known as Sychaeus); Pygmalion murdered Acerbas in hopes of finding his reported hoard of buried treasure. Sensing trouble if she stayed, Dido devised a clever ruse to escape Tyre with the treasure.

She did escape, treasure in tow, and fled to coastal North Africa. There she persuaded King Iarbas to grant her some land. Her request was modest: only as much land as could be encompassed by an ox hide.

Dido cleverly cut the ox hide into fine strips and used that as a perimeter rope. It was long enough to surround and entire hill*. Local Berbers and nearby Phoenicians joined her. She enlisted their aid in construction; thus was born the magnificent and powerful city of Carthage.

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J. M. W. Turner (1775-1851); Dido Building Carthage, 1815

This otherwise clever woman did something quite foolish at the end though. She killed herself in order to avoid marrying King Iarbas. History and legends say it was because she wanted to remain faithful to her first husband and because of this, she was deified and worshipped for honor her self-sacrifice.

A somewhat different and more poetic story of Queen Dido is told by Virgil in Aeneid. After his murder, Acerbas appeared to Dido in a dream and warned her to flee. He revealed where his gold was buried. Dido heeded the dream, took the treasure, and fled.

After establishing Carthage, notable visitors arrived... the last prince of Troy, Aeneas, along with various companions. The gods Juno and Venus conspired to make Dido and Aeneas fall in love.

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Pierre-Narcisse Guérin (1774-1833, France); Aeneas Relating to Dido the Disasters of Troy, 1815.

King Iarbas wanted to marry Dido but she declined; she was in love with Aeneas. Angry that she preferred another, Iarbas banished Aeneas from the land.

Aeneas fled, leaving Dido heartbroken and scorned. Upon seeing his ship leaving she cursed him and promised endless hate between Carthage and Aeneas's homeland, Troy. This legend lays the foundation for the impending Punic Wars.

As for this coin's obverseâ€" the very colorful emperor Elagabalusâ€" I will save that story for the next coin, which I hope to post within the next few days.

*Commemorated in modern mathematics, "Dido's Problem" deals with how to enclose the maximum area within a fixed boundary.

Elagabalus Æ29 of Tyre, Phoenicia. AD 218-222. Laureate, draped and cuirassed bust right / Dido building Carthage; she stands to front before the arched gate of the city, looking left, holding a rule and transverse sceptre; above the gate, a mason at work, [below, a man digging with pick]; murex shell in upper field, palm tree to right. Rouvier 2375; BMC 409; AUB 245; Price & Trell 748. 13.4g, 29mm, 6h. Very Fine. Rare.

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Post your coins of Carthage, Tyre, Elagabalus, or whatever else you feel fits the thread

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Fabulous stories, fabulous coin :)
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Lovely narratives. It is wonderful to bring coins alive like this.
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Thisisfun, Great history thanks.
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Interesting, informative. Thanks for sharing.
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Nice coin, adding the history behind it makes it all the more interesting.
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Fabulous coin, regardless of quality. The history of Carthage is one shrouded in Myth and that's cool. Thanks for sharing. You have developed quite an exquisite taste and coins and really seem to dive right into the history.
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Nice coin, highly interesting reverse.

You want Carthage?


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AE22 Sear#6512 / SNG Milan#37-42 around 200 BC

Not the best coin but clearly showing the standard Carthagenian obverse (Head of Tanit) and reverse (horse).
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Very nice, Medieval! I know there are several of us on this forum who love coins of Carthage.

I have only a few so far, but this one makes up for any deficit of quantity by its surplus of size :D

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ZEUGITANA, Carthage
early 2nd century BCE

AE 15-shekels, 45 mm, 95 gm
Obv: wreathed head of Tanit left
Rev: horse standing right, left foreleg up; solar disk with uraei above
Ref: Alexandropoulos J (2000) Les monnaies de l'Afrique Antique, 103; MĂĽller L (1861) Numismatique de L'Ancienne Afrique, 131; Luynes 3782; Jenkins GK and Lewis RB (1963) Carthaginian Gold and Electrum Coins. Royal Numismatic Society, London, pl.28 12
Graded Fine by NGC Ancients (strike 5/5, surfaces 2/5); not encapsulated (reason: size); certification number 3598288-002.
Extremely rare.

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Another one of those which could make a good planchet for pre-modern 5 Kopek coins.

Beautiful coin!

While I got a few Zeugitanian coins (not only Carthage), none even close as beautiful as yours. Have also some from Phoenicia (including my oldest dated coin) but none from Tyre.
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Thanks for the history lesson! As a side note I love the first painting, it has a very mystical feeling to it.
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That's some really awesome imagery. Considering the size I don't think it's in bad condition at all; the features are clear. I'd love to add one of these to my collection someday now that I know they exist :)
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Flying in for another look...

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Thanks for the coin kudos, everyone.

Nice one, Noob! Pegasus and a palm tree... fabulous.

I like the "Dido overseeing the building of Carthage" reverse so much that I picked up another. There are a few more emperors/empresses who issued this reverse. Maybe I can find one of each. :)

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PHOENICIA, Tyre. Valerian I (CE 253-260)
Æ28.5 mm, 12.2 gm
Obv: IMP CP LIC VALERIANVS AVG; radiate, draped, and cuirassed bust right
Rev: COL TVRO METRO; the building of Carthage: Dido standing left, holding cubit ruler and scepter, surveying construction; mason above gate, worker with pick-axe digging before gate, murex shell to lower right
Ref: Rouvier 2501; BMC 470; cf Price & Trell 748

Emperor Valerian I had the misfortune to be captured by Shapur I. Depending on who you read, he was then:
  • publicly humiliated by being used as Shapur's footstool, then flayed alive, stuffed, and mounted; or
  • allowed to live out his days in the comfort befitting his position, dying of old age at a much later date.

Since it's Halloween, let's go with version #1 today :D

And hey Noob, your signature line says to check out your ebay offerings but it is not a hyperlink. What is your ebay seller name?
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Nice coin 'ThisIsFun', interesting reverse.
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