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 Posted 01/22/2015  2:08 pm  Show Profile   Check SPP-Ottawa's eBay Listings Bookmark this reply Add SPP-Ottawa to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
It is possible to get proof-like, specimen and proof coins slip past quality control...

PL cent
https://goccf.com/t/192632

SP dollar
https://goccf.com/t/189188&whichpage=3

Proof cent
https://goccf.com/t/116192

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I'm curious how much research has been done on this topic, or perhaps it's too tough as SPP mentioned earlier as it can be tough to prove the coin had been bent during the minting process.

SPP yes that is a head scratcher when there is no evidence of contact, have you been able to narrow it down at least to a scenario or two?
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I have a 5 cent silver that is,was bent. Those were thin and would bend easy. I just laid it out and my rubber hammer made it flat again.

I have seen the light clips many times and I didn't know they were that that valuable. Especially common dates cents and I spent them
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im going to pretend I did not here that last comment...
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you didn't hear it.. you read it!
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I wonder what was on the other side of the coin when the rubber mallet did it's job.........Gary? lol, be gentle now with your answer lol.
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Cant even tell. I worked sheet metal for several years and had to fix bends and dents alot. Practice makes perfect.. Harder, thicker metal not so easy
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I was metal detecting with a friend last year, he found a 1859 large cent, bent in a few different ways. He was going to put it in a vice to straighten it, NO I said lol. Maybe between two blocks of wood or even google it for a preferred method. I'll have to ask him if he ever flattened it lol.
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I have seen some very badly damaged mint spoils.
A leading dealer friend of mine brought out about a hundred or so damaged mint spoils from a U.S. coin show, and sold them off in his regular monthly coin catalogue of coins for sale.
Some of them were so badly mangled that they would have been impossible to straighten out in a vise.

If a planchet is fed into a coining press incorrectly, so that sits partly across the lower die, a flat offset strike is normally the result, but that apparently is not always the case.
I would imagine that damage to the dies and collars, and even to the press itself would happen, if the press is not automatically shut down.
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@ Gary,
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I just laid it out and my rubber hammer made it flat again.


What did you lay it on?
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Something softer than the metal so you wouldn't mar the original piece. Use a very light tap

I used this on old car parts when I was working on one of my old car projects when you had a dinged part and could find new. I used burnishing tools on aluminum or stainless etc.

But Never on a coin, but on a silver or any item with a ugly scratch. I did it on airplanes when someone did something to a polished skin that was to hard to replace.

I seen some coins at LCS last week. GB Silver 3Pences and CA 5cent silvers used in jewelry that could not be helped.
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It was like working in finished sheet metal, but heavy gouges don't work well as do multiple bends that stretch or etch the metal cant be fixed. I have an old Elgin engraved gold pocket watch with a deep gouge.
Or any thing that alters the original appearance don't do it.

Also last post I meant couldn't find new or used
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