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1869 Indian Head Cent

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I'm putting together two coin collections to give to my two nieces. I want the values to be approximately equal, so I need to know the value of this 1869 cent. I would call it an F-12 cent, but I think it's the cent I used copper cleaner on in the 1960's, when I was a boy. What would you say it's worth? Thanks.

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AU details. It's much much less circulated than a Fine.
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Yup, AU details/ED

Still a much better date and not bad looking for being dug.
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Not bad at all... I agree with the others, AU details
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EF-40 details, obvious signs of wear.
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Even with a details grade I would think its worth upwards of 200 dollars. nlp
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Thank you all very much. If I remember correctly, the coin was black when I ran across it in my dad's collection in the 1960's. I thought a little copper cleaner would be useful. I know it's wrong to clean coins, but I didn't know that then.
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EF details.
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EF-40 details
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I am going to say EF-40 Details, not enough of the diamonds to be AU but definitely significantly higher than F-12. Something harsh like copper cleaner should never be used on coins.
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alot better than fine, XF 45details
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XF details
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I am going to say EF-40 Details, not enough of the diamonds to be AU but definitely significantly higher than F-12.


As a disciple of Rick Snow's school of grading, I typically ignore the diamonds as a method of grading between grades and see that more as a way to characterize strike quality. The diamonds have value as a way to grade within a grade, for example, I would expect an MS65 to typically have stronger diamonds than an MS62 and the same for an XF45 vs. XF40.

Here is an example on ebay of an MS64 1860 IHC graded by NGC. Despite the coin having no wear, the diamonds are quite indistinct due to strike quality (and/or die state). http://www.ebay.com/itm/1860-Indian...em43d7537d9a

Here are 2 other examples, one NGC and the other PCGS and both 64s, that do not have strong diamonds:

http://www.ebay.com/itm/1862-Indian...em1c4df7d489
http://www.ebay.com/itm/1889-Indian...em487589fa32

The following example is also a PCGS MS64, but it has very strong diamonds. Same grade, but quite different in certain features.

http://www.ebay.com/itm/1860-US-Ind...em41905092fa

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XF Details. Tough date.
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If I remember correctly, the coin was absolutely black when I came across it in my Dad's collection in the 1960's. I'd never been told not to clean coins, and it seemed dipping it in copper cleaner would be a good idea.
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