How Rare Is My Penny?

We are Monkeys that type on Computers,that's unreal.

Well one way to settle this would be to get it graded. Only way I see an end to it and to have a definitive answer. I myself just for peace of mind would get it graded. Mike I see what your saying if you take 2 pennies and smash them together you will have incuse designs If you use that penny as your actual die on your dowel. But with what I see as far as where the date lies that if this where a counterfeit the would have had to make 2 dies anyway in order to get the incuse date to change locations like it does compared to the devices on the strike through. So saying that they would have to make 2 dies. one with penny where the smashed an obverse into a reverse and one where they smashed a obverse into an obverse. and that is just to make the die's then they would have had to use those two dies to smash the penny in question into what we see. I would use a blank piece of and make 2 dies from coins I smashed into the blanks. then make the blanks my dies on the end of dowels. you would then press your dies into one on each side of coin obverse to revers and revers to obvers. done we then have a struck through cent. I'm just saying the probability of either or is slim to none I'd get it graded

Yeah, I'm a bit curious how you folks can call yourself committed collectors and not know who Mike Diamond is.

If anything, though, it's even more mystifying that you choose to be so closed-minded about something with which you are so entirely wrong. You're speculating; we've seen hundreds of these over the years.

Take a chunk of aluminum. Lesser grades have a Mohs hardness the same as copper. You can drive the details of a Cent into that aluminum if you get a good swing, and the result will be a die strong enough to impart details onto another Cent. What it won't be, though, is flat. The coin is still round, and still has a rim. That means the last time it was in a Mint press, the collar was in place to keep the coin's shape. If it's in the collar, whatever hits the coin has 150 tons of hardened steel slamming onto it.

You can bend a Cent with pliers in each hand. How will that stay bent under 150 tons?

I can't allow you people to spread misinformation. We cater to new collectors at Coin Community, and you're not going to mislead them.

OK Who said I don't know who Mike is? He is still human and we all make errors. I AM speculating a situation that may or may not have happened. Instead of attacking members personally calling them close minded and such. You should act more appropriately being a moderator. It is simply an opinion. I am not trying to mislead anyone. Simply looking for answers.

Check out the list on this website:
http://www.error-ref.com/error_and_..._check_list/
Note who compiled this information.

Nobody's saying Mike is perfect. I've disagreed with him publicly in this forum. He was probably right, though.

You are getting pushback because your position is untenable. You are supporting a theory which does not stand up to casual numismatic diligence, for reasons which ought to be among the earliest knowledge gathered by every collector - an understanding of the minting process. This is fundamental, and when you know it you'll know this coin isn't possible from the Mint.

I'm sorry you feel it's personal. It isn't. The people arguing in favor of this coin being a legit Mint error are doing the equivalent of claiming the sun rises in the West, but in this case there is a large audience reading who don't yet know which direction the sun rises. My job is to protect them.

I'm known in this place to question conventional wisdom, especially in Moderns. Rest assured, if there were the slightest doubt in my mind about this coin, you'd know it.

Here is an example of a flip over nickel: