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RCM Commemorates 100th Anniversary Of In Flanders Fields With Silver Coins

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^ does it comes with a Frame as well or just the stamp?
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It's frame with a mat that has a number xxx/450. It would appear that it's the same size pane as the $5 one (6.5" x 9.5") but the frame is 12.5" x 16.5".

Is it worth $55 for the mat, frame, gold metallic ink cancellation and limited numbering? I guess that is the question. Personally, I think it is since a decent frame of that size isn't cheap, though you likely could create a similar presentation for less with minimal effort.

BTW,and this may not be popular, but I think the presentation should have been totally in English. I wouldn't care if they produced a French version but why make just the title bilingual?! I understand the stamps and the coins being bilingual but it just makes no sense to add three words of French to the title on the pane.
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The coins, 1oz and 5oz looks great, good work, RCM, for this.

Stamps - cool addition to have a setof items, thanks Northencoins and Lostwords.

But when I think about addition of stamps, I think:
and if Walmart will start to sell limited edition T-Shirts with the lines from "In Flanders Fields", or Starbucks will sell the limited edition cup with "In Flanders Fields" - will it be expected that people will jump on this stuff?
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The 5 oz coin and framed stamps looks nice. But the price again makes it out of touch for most .
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Is it worth $55 for the mat, frame, gold metallic ink cancellation and limited numbering? I guess that is the question. Personally, I think it is since a decent frame of that size isn't cheap, though you likely could create a similar presentation for less with minimal effort.


It also showed that there are only 450 of them on the stamp. 1/450 etc etc where as the cheapo $5 doesn't. so the $45+ you pay for is the frame plus the mintage (450 > 60,000). Personally I think it's a nice piece to have if you have space around your house to hang it up
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if Walmart will start to sell limited edition T-Shirts with the lines from "In Flanders Fields", or Starbucks will sell the limited edition cup with "In Flanders Fields" - will it be expected that people will jump on this stuff?


Not going to hang a t-shirt or a cup on a wall in my home.

I will hang a nicely framed edition of a highly significant piece of history. Limited edition has little to do with.

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I will hang a nicely framed edition of a highly significant piece of history. Limited edition has little to do with.


I like it, but less like the idea of real history being substituted with the mechanization.
Is it a real difference in frame with stamps or framed T-shirt?
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But when I think about addition of stamps, I think: and if Walmart will start to sell limited edition T-Shirts with the lines from "In Flanders Fields", or Starbucks will sell the limited edition cup with "In Flanders Fields" - will it be expected that people will jump on this stuff?


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I like it, but less like the idea of real history being substituted with the mechanization. Is it a real difference in frame with stamps or framed T-shirt?

I just don't see a parallel between stamp collecting and t-shirts. Coin collecting and stamp collecting have been related financially-based hobbies practically since the first issue of postage stamps in the mid-1800s. They are a "natural" joint venture when they commemorate the same event. I don't believe there is any similar tie-in with t-shirts or coffee mugs.

@Silveroid: I think you just like to stir things up and be the contrarian!


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That's good, commems

The Canada Post presents nice item for the stamps collectors. This fact aside and collectors will be happy.

But think deeply what they've done:
(well, it might refer to coins to, but there is difference)

"Let's take something anniversary...what is the next - oh, The Flanders Fields - print uncut sheet with the poem, frame it. And limit as possible the production".

sounds "history" or cheap?

And the difference with the coins - that RCM at least with affordable 1oz doesn't play on the "limited mintage", but put an effort into nice coin with the mintage to satisfy the demand.

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well, since all the collectible items could be like this, where the limited production plays a role - wish, that just a collectors will be happy

Just enjoy it.
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I will add, these will be sold out at CP, only 450, grab one while you can. Remember what happened with the 50th anniversary flag uncut sheet?
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Remember what happened with the 50th anniversary flag uncut sheet?


What happened, is the flippers ran over the POs to grab it.

So you, Norterncoins right, if you like it - buy without thinking twice.
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What happened, is the flippers ran over the POs to grab it.


Ya but only after they were sold out on CP site (they sold out fast) as a few where ordered by some of the CP outlets for stock etc but most were sold to collectors through CP website I believe.

The flippers were only able to get a few here and there at CP outlets after the fact.

Plus I never did get one lol, and I wasn't going to pay 3 times the issue price either.
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How long will they last, they have got to be sold out already ,no?
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Just went to the Ottawa boutique... Really like the 5oz flanders field coin, ended up traded in a few of my $100 for $100 for it.
PSA: Ottawa boutique today allow folks to make their own token. It has a tulip on it. They only allow me to make one for my self. I don't know how long it will last

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Noticed that the recent Flanders Fields coins feature King George on the obverse. The RCM has been doing a number of "throw back" portraits on coins lately (this 5oz feature is sure to be very appealing in this regard).

The question: is there anything in Canadian legislation stating that the "present" head of state must be used on current coinage, and if so, is a special exception granted for coinage that bears an image of a prior head of state?


The short answer is "No" the RCM is not legislatively bound to portray the current head of state on Canadian coins.

The long answer.

The Royal Canadian Mint Act assigns the authority to determine the design for non-circulating coins to the Minister selected from the Privy Council by the Governor in Council; the selected Minister oversees RCM operations (though he/she is not the day-to-day operations manager, that is the responsibility of the Master of the RCM). The Minister may authorize the use of the current head of state or may authorize a previous one for use on a given coin issue.

For circulating coins, the Governor is Council is the person authorized to determine the design.

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