Ancient Chinese Spades; Need Help With Authenticity.

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TypeCoin971793 Pillar of the Community United States 6370 Posts	Posted 05/04/2015 5:44 pm I am thinking about putting a lot of money into these coins. I know all of these seem to have real patination and genuine characteristics. But I know these types are often faked, and many are good at that. They are being sold by a reputable source, but I have only four weeks to determine authenticity and to return them if they are fakes. Sorry about the pictures. They are all I have access to. I might be able to request sharper pictures. Report this Post to the Staff

echizento Moderator United States 23731 Posts	Posted 05/04/2015 5:58 pm IMO they look good, but that being said there are just too many fakes out there that look as good. I think these need to be looked at by an expert on this type. I wouldn't touch them without being certified by an expert. Report this Post to the Staff
Athalbert Pillar of the Community Spain 629 Posts	Posted 05/04/2015 6:11 pm I think so... this is a coin type that really needs for an expert! Report this Post to the Staff
publius Pillar of the Community United States 807 Posts	Posted 05/04/2015 7:37 pm I fear the safest thing is not to buy without provenance to a Western collection before at least AD2000. Report this Post to the Staff
Ancientnoob Pillar of the Community United States 5155 Posts	Posted 05/04/2015 8:40 pm Agreed. All look good but this is probably the toughest class of coins to authenticate. Good luck my friend. I try and buy these from reputable sources. Report this Post to the Staff
chrsmat71 Pillar of the Community United States 4971 Posts	Posted 05/04/2015 11:20 pm I'm interested in these things, but just have no idea myself as to their authenticity. considering it other here think they are ok I would want to know how knowledgeable the reputable seller about these items? that would probably be the deciding factor for me in this case. Report this Post to the Staff
TypeCoin971793 Pillar of the Community United States 6370 Posts	Posted 05/05/2015 5:05 pm Here is what I got back when I asked about provenance: Quote: They were purchased by a Chinese Californian years ago who was an astute buyer. He also sold notes through my company for thousands of dollars and the buyers seemed happy. I personally do not think they are counterfeits or reproductions, because most people over in the U.S. are not that interested in them and he was not asking very much. Nothing written as far as providence. What you you guys think? Should I ask abou time frame? Report this Post to the Staff
echizento Moderator United States 23731 Posts	Posted 05/05/2015 6:59 pm I don't know what else we could say about these, none of us know enough about this type to say 100% if they are real or not. The choice is yours. I hope should you buy them that you don't get burnt in the long run. Report this Post to the Staff
Sap Moderator Australia 16857 Posts	Posted 05/05/2015 8:54 pm All I can add is that, if they are fakes, then they are a higher quality fake than the "usual" ones we see here on the forum, of the kind being churned out by the pallet-load over in China. Compare your large (broken) knife with the knives both fake and genuine in this thread, for example. Don't say "infinitely" when you mean "very"; otherwise, you'll have no word left when you want to talk about something really infinite. - C. S. Lewis Report this Post to the Staff
TypeCoin971793 Pillar of the Community United States 6370 Posts	Posted 05/06/2015 07:20 am Feast your eyes on these counterfeits and see why I am concerned. These were identified as fakes from Vincent Vong by Bob Reis. Edited by TypeCoin971793 05/06/2015 1:05 pm Report this Post to the Staff
TypeCoin971793 Pillar of the Community United States 6370 Posts	Posted 05/06/2015 08:24 am When I asked about purchase date, the answer I got was "long time ago" since the exact purchase date by the previous owner is unknown. The dealer also sent better pictures, from which I could tell with 100% certainty the two small spades (the pointed foot and square foot), the round "Yuan" coin, the Wang Mang value 1000 spade, and the small Ming knife are genuine. Report this Post to the Staff
TypeCoin971793 Pillar of the Community United States 6370 Posts	Posted 05/24/2015 10:17 am I got them! They were in an auction in Hong Kong, and this was the only lot I was interested in. Got it for a little more than half of my max bid. I will disclose price when I get to examine them. Report this Post to the Staff
captainyesterday555 Valued Member United States 129 Posts	Posted 05/24/2015 9:06 pm Congratulations on winning, and hope you enjoy them when they arrive. Report this Post to the Staff
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