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PCGS MS-63 Nail Cent!

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 Posted 07/25/2015  9:22 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add CSOTUS to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Ok, I can understand a TPG slabbing this if they did consider it a mint error, but to consider a nail mint state 63? Wut?
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 Posted 07/25/2015  9:39 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add CoinCollector2012 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I have a really hard time believing that this error was not assisted in any way. I'd kind of like to know where they came up with $9k as their price.
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I wonder if I bought it and cracked it then say it gets lost on the carpet then say I stepped on it and it went through my foot. Would it then be au58 due to me having to walk to the bathtub to extract it. Then would it be a details coin because I had to "clean" the blood off?
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That was my point. Would the nail retain mint luster?
How does anyone assign a numerical grade to a non-coin?
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 Posted 07/25/2015  10:20 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add coop to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
PCGS-MS-63-Nail-Cent!
It does seem like it would be hard to call it mint state?
PCGS-MS-63-Nail-Cent!
But someone submitted it. Paid the fees and it does look legit to me.
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 Posted 07/25/2015  10:43 pm  Show Profile   Check Pacificoin's eBay Listings Bookmark this reply Add Pacificoin to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
What an insult to the nail it is at least HS67 as struck !!! ( by hammer ). Would be a loftier grade if hammered by a ball pein hammer instead of a claw hammer. .
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I agree with their grade; I think they hit the nail right on the head!

But $9000 is an awful lot to have to pay. Anyone who buys this will get screwed! For those who may be contemplating buying this, bolt!

In all seriousness, I think this is a cool piece, even if it was mint-assisted and therefore not a true error.
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I would love to ask the graders how they came up with that grade.
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The grade is not relevant. Likely not to the dealer, nor potential buyers. And they slabbed it because it was a Mint error - should they have refused to slab it even though they offer a Mint error service?

It's a cool piece and for the collector that's been trying to find one, this may be his/her only chance for a years. It's not a piece for me, though.

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Then why put a grade? Who cares then.
Genuine would be more relevant to this piece.

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Just label it "GENUINE"
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I think it's an issue of where to draw the line. Do they only put grades on coins with a certain percent of existing surface area? Or should they refuse to put a grade on certain overstruck objects?

It might take too much time to make the call each and everytime a coin struck on an object or scrap comes in. They only see a coin for a couple seconds(maybe errors are different?) before placing a grade on it.

What might be more likely is an operational issue with no designated person making the call each and every time. In this case there is no consistency in the determination of whether to put a grade on it or not.
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I just don't understand how anyone at PCGS determined that this object was definitely a graded "MINT STATE 63" Lincoln Cent given how they are supposed to grade Lincoln Cents.

Can anyone answer how this MS 63 grade was arrived at?
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 Posted 07/26/2015  12:23 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add jdmern to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
You know the old saying...

'Buy the nail not the holder'

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JD you hit the nail right on the head. .
The grading services are getting just as silly as the worlds mints. Seems anything goes these days.
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