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Fake JFK Half Dollars & Fake Jefferson Nickels

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 Posted 09/06/2015  11:16 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Altaira to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
The nickels are similar to the ones on this thread: https://goccf.com/t/175236
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 Posted 09/13/2015  5:20 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add GSDykes to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
The coins should have "copy" on them, they do not. Thus, they are poor copies at that. Possibly made by a blind Chinaman. I have a real nice 1915 Buffalo nickel, counterfeit. It is well made, and would pose a problem for future young collectors. It appears to be made by that bath with electric current duplicating a genuine coin (I forget the name of the actual process). Most counterfeits are detectable, but they are getting better and better at looking genuine! I do not think banning imports is the way to go, rather education. Tomorrow's new collectors will learn the needed skills, they have no option. So I am not too worried.
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 Posted 09/13/2015  8:23 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add teo2015 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
The nickels do appear to be the same as the one in the prior thread, right down to the In God we "Irust", so the one in the prior thread was not a unique creation. The question now is how many of these are in circulation?
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 Posted 09/14/2015  9:54 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Steele to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply

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Possibly made by a blind Chinaman
The Chinaman is not the issue here, Dude! I'm talking about drawing a line in the sand, Dude! Across this line, you do not. also, Dude, Chinaman is not the preferred nomenclature; Asian-American, please.
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 Posted 09/14/2015  10:08 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add jack jeckel to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply

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The question now is how many of these are in circulation?


I wonder how they got into circulation in the first place. If they are coming out of China and being sold online they are going to cost the buyer more than 5¢ each unless they bought a cargo container full. 2 years or so ago I picked up a few key date SLQ "copies" to fill the holes in my albums until I could afford the real deal. I think I paid a buck or 2 including shipping each. The 2004 nickel is not collectible enough and not valuable enough even when genuine for someone to pay more than 5¢ for a fake. I can only guess someone with connections to China is trying to pull a Henning cash out. If I had $1000 face that I paid 1¢ each for I think I could find enough opportunities to pas 5 at a time transaction and sell some to others at 50 cent son the dollar to make it worth my time. Even more so if the coin counting machines didn't kick them out.
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 Posted 09/15/2015  02:31 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add shadz to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply

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Chinaman is not the preferred nomenclature; Asian-American, please.


What if he never left China and lived there all of his life, he is still "American"?

Would Hugo Weaving not be able to be considered African-Australia then since he was born in Africa? (He isn't black because he is born to British and Australian parents, but the PC term could still apply wouldn't it?) I wonder what coins he has kept form his travels over the years?

Let's not forget I guess that persons from China look Asian, right? How about that land mass that covers over half of Asia called the former U.S.S.R, are Russians not Asian?

I am pretty sure the Chinese fakes are coming from China, or people living in a US territory and in no way consider themselves American.

Stupid question considering all that and leaving the PC behind, but in decades past all sort of things said Made in China, Made in Taiwan, Made in Hong Kong; so couldn't magicians coins easily have been made there and the company just left stuff behind if they moved out so China already had a supply of designs and tools to make fakes? :(
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 Posted 09/15/2015  5:15 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add M0nks to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I have 3 of them (nickels) and 2 quarters on the quarters theres no reeding at all its the same smooth rim as the nickels go figure they don't even attempt to change it ha and if you look at it even quick you can notice the difference ill try and take a picture of both with real ones next to it
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 Posted 09/15/2015  10:24 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Steele to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply

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What if he never left China and lived there all of his life, he is still "American"?

Obviously you're not a golfer.
I wasn't sure if people here would get the movie reference or not. It's not exactly the most family friendly of all movies after all.
You are definitely correct about them not being Asian-American if they are not American. It always amuses me when I hear the term African-American describing a person who is British. Also when someone born in South Africa isn't considered African-American if they do not have dark skin.
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 Posted 09/15/2015  11:25 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add TNG to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Grandson of Henning Nickels? Definitely fake ... but I'd like one myself.
For a nickel.
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 Posted 09/16/2015  05:48 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add SilverTracker to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
If anyone wants one of these fakes PM me. I really don't care to keep them. Just pay the postage.
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 Posted 09/16/2015  7:57 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Nickelfinder311 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Both fake.
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 Posted 09/17/2015  03:26 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add shadz to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply

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Obviously you're not a golfer.


Heaven forbid, why would I be?

Wait, should I be? do golfers drop a lot of coins on the links? Are metal detectors allowed in a golf bag? is 100 strokes in the sand trap a bad thing?
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 Posted 10/01/2015  04:54 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Pizzicato65 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
"Obviously you're not a golfer."

Haha, beautiful!

It's a good quote. And thorough...

The Dude will never get old. Sorry for the necro; couldn't help myself, lol
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If anyone wants one of these fakes PM me. I really don't care to keep them. Just pay the postage.


Never got the nickel I asked you for. You emailed me that it was sent as well as a half dollar but they never came.
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 Posted 10/31/2016  1:33 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Debrajc to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply

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There was an article in Coin World oh about a year ago where it was revealed that for several years now the Chinese have been making fake Kennedy halves, deliberately damaging them and then sending them to the mint/Treasury for redemption as mutilated US coinage. According to the article they have actually redeemed more fake half dollars than the US mint has MADE since 1971.


Yes Conder I read the same article and as I was reading the OP's post this was exactly what crossed my mind. Very sad.
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