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Always looking for new and interesting coins to collect, and we all have certain coins that we feel are a must have in our collections.

We are running this with 4 different categories. Roman, Greek, Medieval and Miscellaneous (Celtic, Barbaric, Byzantine etc) Due to lack of interest/participation I think rather than separate the Medieval and the miscellaneous this third thread will cover both. Entries should therefore include - Hammered coinage of Europe, Byzantine, Vandals, Visagoths and Barbaric, Celtic, Anglosaxon and basically anything old and round not covered by the Roman or Greek sections.


Each person should enter 3 coins of their choice (but I think we should only enter coins that can be had for under $300 since most people can't be affording gold coins of Julius Ceasar etc) trying not to repeat selections other have made. Entries to be in by this time next week. Then we can have a week of voting (it won't be easy but I am suggesting we each choose 5 coins in our order of preference) We will be voting for the coin type rather than the specific example coin... (10 points for 1st, 8 for 2nd, 5 for 3rd, 2 for 4th and 1 for 5th place)

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 Posted 09/15/2015  01:54 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add DavidUK to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I have always liked the Elizabeth I silver sixpence, it is a medium size coin but quite thin often in bad condition but can be picked up fairly reasonably considering the significance of the monarch and all the history these coins seem to represent.




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My next entry is a little silver Anglo-saxon sceat. This one was dug up by a detectorist a few years back in 2009. I don't go in for all that metal detecting and I am sure nine out of ten times what you find is going to be low grade and common but I can understand the thrill of the chase and maybe it is all worth it for the times you get lucky.



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My third coin is a Durotriges stater. This Celtic coin was originally minted in silver but when the silver supply was strangled by conflicts they debased it to billon. The silver ones command a higher price due to their rarity by identifying the variety isn't so easy unless you follow Archimedes examples.





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 Posted 09/15/2015  01:59 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add arnoldoe to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
1 Justinian Follis, --very big byzantine coin (especially years 12-15)
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JUSTINIAN I. 527-565 AD. Æ Follis (38mm 23g). Constantinople mint, 5th officina. Dated RY 13 (539/540 AD). D N IVSTINIANVS P P AVG, helmeted and cuirassed facing bust, holding globus cruciger and shield; cross in right field / Large M; cross above, date across field; E/CON. DOC I 38e; SB 163.

A Byzantine cup coin
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Alexius I Comnenus. 1081-1118. BI Aspron Trachy (26mm) Constantinople mint. Struck 1092/3-1118. Christ Pantokrator enthroned facing / Crowned facing bust of Alexius, holding cruciform scepter and globus cruciger. DOC 25b; CLBC 2.3.3; SB 1918.

I'll post a few more later..
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09/15/2015 02:08 am
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 Posted 09/15/2015  08:58 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add antwerpen2306 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
here my three coins : the first celtic to make a link with Greek coins and two medieval.


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AR drachme
obv: head of Zeus right
rev:horse left with dot in circle
mint: Boii tribue , Kugelwange-type
3/2th cent BC , 13 mm , 1.56 gr,die axis 6 h
it is an imitation of a coin of Philippos III of Macedon.
ref : Lanz506 .
The second coin is one of the archbisphoric of Reims :


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AR denarius
obv : Gule / rmus between 2 lines and dots ,+ Archiepiscopus
rev : X Remis Civitatis , in the circle a cross with two lilies and two crescents
mint : Reims , 1.24 gr , 20 mm , die axis : 6 h
Guillaume T:1176-1202 :archbisshop
ref Poey d'Avant 6071 ff
the third is a bracteat of Hungry

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AR bracteat
obv:anepigraphis , young head left in circle of pearls
rev : anepigraphic : the same in incuse
11 mm , 0,11 gr
mint : Hungry12/13th cent : Bela III (1173-1196) or Bela IV (1235-1270)
ref : Huszar 192
I love this coin because it is an incuse.
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 Posted 09/15/2015  2:16 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add echizento to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
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Kushan empire
Vima Takha (Soter Megas)
@100 AD
AE Tetradrachm.
Gobl 762



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Nezak Hun
Napti Malka
AR Drachm
@520 AD
S type 222


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Malik of Kurzuwan
1221 AD
Mongol Siege coin
AE Jital
Album 1971
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 Posted 09/15/2015  9:06 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Kamnaskires to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I'm loving everyone's suggestions thus far. If Chris hadn't already entered a big Justinian follis, and if Ron hadn't entered the Soter Megas, I might have contributed those. So, as not to repeat, here are three others:

1. Mithradates II drachm, Parthia, 123 - 88 BC. In "Ancient Coin Collecting VI" Wayne Sayles refers to Mithradates II as "one of the most able leaders of the (Parthian) dynasty." A must-have guy for anyone interested in Parthians (thus my avatar). Great profile, common (easy to find/acquire), with many different varieties minted (this one is a Sellwood 27.1), usually priced under $300:
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2. Although I will always resent the Sassanians for defeating the Parthians, I grudgingly admit that a Sassanian drachm should be on this list. A common and cheap, but at the same time very collectable and interesting variety is that of Khusro II, 591 - 628 AD:
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3. What kind of list would this be if we did not include a widow's mite? And, so, here's an AE prutah of Alexander Jannaeus, 103 - 76 BC...these are easily obtainable within our price limit:
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(first two photos: CNG; last: Wildwinds)
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09/15/2015 9:10 pm
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i'll try to avoid stuff others have posted as well. I do dig me some byzantines, but there are plenty to choose from.

how about some nabateans?

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Nabatean Kingdom, Aretas IV, 9 BC-40 AD
O:Aretas, palm left, H right. R:Shuquailat, Aramaic legend, 16 mm, 2.7g, SNG ANS 1435

or china?

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Wang Mang, Hou Quan
7-23 AD, 23 mm, 23 mm, 3.6g


so many cool "others"...

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Mauryan Empire, Ashoka the Great, 272-232 BC
GH 589, 15 x 13 mm, 3.3g

I'm sure AN will lay down some serious "others".
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 Posted 09/15/2015  9:25 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Kamnaskires to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Man, you're making it tough to choose, Chris. Nice additions to the list.
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 Posted 09/15/2015  10:18 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Arael to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Wow I've never even heard of the Mauryan empire... that is one crazy cool coin! Can you give me some more info about that? I'm very interested.
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an you give me some more info about that?


Coinindia is always great for info on Indian types. See:
http://coinindia.com/galleries-maurya.html

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 Posted 09/15/2015  10:52 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Arael to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Thanks Bob! These are some really cool coins.
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Whats interesting about Chris's Mauryan Karshapana is the usually there are five punch marks on the obverse and one on the reverse, his is three on each side.
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Here are all of my entries:

1. Ancient Chinese Ban Liang

This is the first unified coinage of China, originally initiated by the state of Qin around 350 BC. It became China's principal coinage when the Qin Dynasty was founded over a unified China in 221 BC. There are seemingly infinite varieties of this very pouplar type (and I have about 200 different myself), rangning in weight (<0.1g - 16+g), size (4mm - 40mm+), caligraphy styles, extra characters and marks, fabrics, rims or lack thereof, thickness, etc. Roger Doo wrote a fairly comprehensive catalogue of just Ban Liangs and it has nearly 6,000 entries. And that still doesn't cover them all!

The two pictured are my smallest and second-largest at 5mm, 0.1g and 35mm and 10.9g, respectively. My largest is 37mm and 8.9g.

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2. Wang Mang value 1000 Spade ca 10-14 AD

This coin was a part of the Han Dynasty usurper's revolutionary monetary reform. His idea was to create fiduciary coinage at values ranging from 1-1000 cash of nearly similar size, with the logic being that trading for large and small purchases would be easy to do with few, very portable coins. Sound like today's paper money system? However, unlike today, the people under Wang Mang rejected the coinage as they didn't trust the coins to hold their stated values. In retaliation, Wang Mang forced the circulation of his coinage by threatening to imprison and/or enslave the families of those who used old and traditional monetary forms.

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3. The first round coin of China, round coins with a round hole

This issue is among the earliest-issued round coins of China, being initially cast from around 400BC-350BC. Several individuals have theories based on why the Chinese began casting round coins after centuries of casting Spade and Knife coins, but the most likely are that the round coins are based on the spinning wheel (an important productive tool) or jade rings (which symbolized eternal life). They always had the name of the town where the coins were cast and/or the coin's weight denomination. The coin pictured is by far the most common variety (from the town of Yuan) and is the only one readily available for under $300.

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I know the number of coins is limited to three , but I forgot this one , wich I bought recently for €275 , about $300 .
Gold tremissis , 1.36 gr , 16 mm , 6 h
Phocas : 602 - 610
mint : Constantinopolis , officina quarta .
obv : d N FOCAS P e P AUG
rev : VICTORI FOCAS AV CONOB
Sear 634 , DO 19 , extremely fine
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Wow. Looks like my options are being taken by some very nice coins. I especially appreciate the link to the Indian coinage site, since my only reference for that is Mitchener - very dated. Thanks BobL.

My first item is the Persian siglos, which to me is a must have for a silver coin from the early period of coinage. Plentiful and inexpensive these date back to the Achaemenids of the mid-6th to 4th centuries BC. The kneeling archer with drawn bow type (right) has been dated back to the reign of Darius I around 520 BC.

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A general collection of ancients really out to have an example of Roman Provincial coinage. I selected one from my collection of gate reverses, but the obverse bears portraits of Macrinus and Diadumenion. The latter is hard to come by in Roman Imperial coinage, but much more affordable in Provincial. And the unusual gate on this reverse is magnificent as gates go.

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My third "miscellaneous" type is an Alexandrian tetradrachm of Claudius, with his wife Messalina on reverse holding her children. These tetradrachms are a special class of Roman provincial that belong in any collection of ancients.

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Since the Alex tet was used once in the Roman section, I am going to display an early type of Indian coinage as a backup.

This is a silver scyphate satamana (Mitchener), or according to more recent scholarship a 5-shana(Raijor), from the earliest Indian coinage dating back to about the time of the Achaemenids in the Ancient Near East.

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And for good measure, as long as we are mentioning scyphates, I thought I would show a Byzantine scyphate in a rather good state of preservation. Of course, arnoldoe beat me to it so this is like another vote for a popular miscellaneous coin type.

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I was going to run a mint state Sassanian drachm, to go with the sigloi, but -- too late.


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 Posted 09/17/2015  6:21 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add DavidUK to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Some great coins coming in... the Parthian is most likely one of my next buys, Antwerpens first coin with the horse is high up on my list too... Echizento's entries are all unfamiliar types to me and worth me exploring, and Chris's last square coin is particularly cool. The Darius siglos is a favourite of mine too...

Great entries all... I hope we have a few more over the weekend before voting starts on Monday. ^^
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