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1776 Wm Copper US Coin? New Pics Added

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My father collected coins. This was in a box he received from Australia after his death. I just recently opened the box and went through what was in it. Found a smallish jewelry box that included some wire kopeks, a couple of Australian trade cents, a bunch of old costume jewelry, some modern British (2002) Jubilee tokens, and this. Purchased on ebay, Australia, it said. My father loved Australian trade cents, and had an extensive collection of over 300 of them. This one is not in very good shape. I am either extremely fortunate, or extremely disappointed....
It weighs 5.1 grams.
Any opinions would be appreciated. Where could I send it/sell it?

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That's a 1776 New Hampshire William Moulton colonial copper coin. If it's authentic, we're looking at a priceless coin. However, for every real example of this coin, there are probably over 10,000 Chinese-made fakes. You should get it checked out by a reputable grading company to see if this is the real deal. If it does happen to be a fake, it'll be worth a few dollars as a novelty item.

UPDATE: I just compared your pictures, grainy as they are, to pictures of an authentic example. So far I don't see any obvious signs of a counterfeit coin. The weight of an authentic coin is reported to be 5.15 grams, so I'd consider sending this to PCGS for authentication. Don't get your hopes too high though
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Has all the attributes of every copy I've ever seen.
Look closely at the edge and you should see a seam.
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Quote:
Look closely at the edge and you should see a seam.


Wish I had a picture of the rims.
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 Posted 10/23/2015  7:38 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add stazstaz to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
OK, thanks so far. This one weighs 5.1 grams by my scale. Somebody wanted more pics, here they are:

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Vermontensium: Is a seam a good thing or a bad thing?
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Bad. Means the coin was cast, not struck.
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Cast copy.
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what would its value be
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I am sure you can see the seam if you look close. Coin looks very, very wrong.
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Probably a vintage 1960's copy. These were often sold in sets or groups ... souvenirs from historic sites.
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I saw these for sale in Philadelphia gift shops.
Few bucks.
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Here is a link to another thread about a this same type of coin: https://goccf.com/t/4601
Here is a link to the same poster posting the same coin on another forum: http://metaldetectingforum.com/show...d.php?t=1747
He claims he found it under an old house that was built close to where an old store once existed. He never does say if he had it authenticated or not.
His coin looks different than yours. Yours does look like it was made to look old and not naturally aged. That is just my opinion though, which may not be worth much.
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The same poster posting the same coin on another forum will get the same response here from me especially.

35+ years in Numismatics specializing in Colonial US coinage.

Copy.Fake

Period!..sorry.
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