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1974 ONE CENT
PCGS No: 2971

Mintage:
Circulation strikes: 4,232,140,523
Proofs: 0
Designer: Obverse by Victor David Brenner; reverse by Frank Gasparro
Diameter: 19 millimeters
Metal content:
Copper - 95%
Tin and Zinc - 5%
Weight: 48 grains (3.11 grams)
Edge: Plain
Mintmark: None (for Philadelphia, PA) below the date
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Notes:
1,579,324 1974 One Cent pieces were struck in Aluminum, a handful going to members of Congress and staff members. The entire mintage was destroyed except for an estimated dozen examples that were never recovered from the Congressmen and their staffs.
One example resides in the National Numismatic Collection at the Smithsonian Institution, having been turned over to the museum by Charles Holstein, staff director for the House Banking Subcommittee at the time.
In early 2001, a report surfaced that an unnamed grading service had examined a 1974 Aluminum Cent, but had not authenticated or encapsulated the coin. The coin was reportedly in the hands of the family of a deceased Capitol Hill police officer who found the piece in 1973 "on the pavement while on duty in the basement of the House Office Building" where the officer believed it had been dropped by a Congressman.
Type I Aluminum Cent blanks are known. One was donated to the National Numismatic Collection in the mid-1980's by David L. Ganz, who had been present during the Congressional hearings concerning the changes in the metal composition of the Cent. Ganz also donated a Type 1 Aluminum Cent blank to the American Numismatic Association and sold a third in a 1994 auction conducted by Heritage Numismatic Auctions, Inc.
In 1994, a former employee at a Pennsylvania steel mill sent a previously unknown, bronze-clad steel cent to Coin World. The employee found the coin in 1974 when Mint officials brought bags of the bronze-clad steel Cents to the steel mill to be destroyed. Reportedly, one bag broke open and not all of the coins were recovered.
Both the Aluminum and Bronze-clad Steel 1974 Cents are illegal to own.
The finest Uncirculated Red-Brown examples graded by PCGS are 2 MS-64RB's.
The finest Uncirculated Red examples graded by PCGS are 41 MS-67RD's.
Sources and/or recommended reading:
Coin World, March 5, 2001, pages 1 and 85
"The PCGS Population Report, October 2003" by The Professional Coin Grading Service

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 Posted 05/19/2016  04:21 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add R1974 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
So yes the 1974 one cent (aluminum trial strike) weighed 3.1g
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So if it was the same exact picture and color as a 1974 aluminum penny but weighs 3.1g its not one of the many many different metal trials that took place?
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I have one of these desired gems that everyone thinks does not exist! If anyone would like to see a pic of the real thing just message me! Love some knowledge on it too and its legality as of 2016?

Do you still believe you have one?
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So if it was the same exact picture and color as a 1974 aluminum penny but weighs 3.1g its not one of the many many different metal trials that took place?
Correct.
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 Posted 05/19/2016  12:01 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add R1974 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Thats a loaded question, but the one I have looked at has everything but the weight, but I have read many many related articles and documents and there were a very few that were the restored weight of 3.1g so I'm a believer that it is real!
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There is no way an aluminum cent would weigh that much unless its size (diameter and thickness) increased as well. You cannot alter the laws of physics.

It is a real 95% copper cent that someone plated or coloured.
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but I have read many many related articles and documents and there were a very few that were the restored weight of 3.1g so I'm a believer that it is real!


Link to one then. Should be easy enough to link to one if there is "many,many"
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That proves what?
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I think if the OP does not want the opinions of the people on this forum then someone should lock this thread.

OP the only thing you should do is put your money where your mouth is and send the coin into be authenticated by a TPG.

obviously you wont accept anyone's opinion here.
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I think if the OP does not want the opinions of the people on this forum then someone should lock this thread.

OP the only thing you should do is put your money where your mouth is and send the coin into be authenticated by a TPG.

obviously you wont accept anyone's opinion here.


After all the "Bagging" that R1974 got on his thread pertaining to his 1992p Close AM coin, Can you blame him?
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 Posted 05/19/2016  5:48 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add PawnS to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
We still haven't seen a pic of it, just a cert number. Typically when it's like pulling teeth getting info or pics there's a reason.
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