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Ebay 1889-CC Dollar

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 Posted 01/31/2016  11:48 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add swamperbob to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
My test has run now for about 48 hours more or less.

I reported 55 coins all absolutely clear violations. None of these were scheduled to terminate in under 24 hours. Most were in fact 5-7 days out.

I can report that ebay stopped 7 of the coins. None of the seller IDs has been terminated or suspended. That is 12% terminated after 48 hours.

That sounds bad enough but then you need to know how I chose the sellers I reported. I chose forgeries belonging to 3 groups of sellers.

First a group of Russian/Israeli/Latvian forgeries. These were all on the US ebay site and all of them had shipping rates to the US. I reported seven auctions and NONE of these were stopped. One auction has already ended costing the buyer $54.

Second a group of Chinese forgeries being re-sold by other sellers all in the USA. I picked these because the sellers sold mixed goods (not specifically coins) and each had ONLY ONE FORGERY in their active sales. Ten auctions were reported - 6 of the 7 that were stopped were in this group of sellers. This proves a couple things to me. First ebay can operate very quickly when they choose to. Second they seem to pick on the small sellers.

Third a mixed group (of sellers) selling Chinese forgeries. There were 41 in all. All of these sellers fit the typical profile of the Beijing group that I hunted for almost a year. I would have asked ebay management to immediately terminate each of these IDs. They all involve multiple copies of bad fakes. Never give any warning. These are the BAD GUYS - these are the guys that stole bank account numbers and set up fake IDs. These are the big group of thieves who complained to ebay and got us canned and the policy at ebay changed. Only 1 of these auctions was stopped. I had picked 10 auctions that were to end within 48 hours and 31 that were to end at various longer intervals. The one terminated fell within the first group of ten - so ebay had enough time to stop all ten - they just didn't. They also terminate no ID's - they are all still operating - and selling and making money for ebay. The 9 coins that have ended to far sold for $ 1,450. That is an average of $161 per coin.

Perhaps that is small change in the scheme of fraud. But in EACH CASE my report would have prevented each of these.

I will complete the report after all 55 auctions are complete - but I believe my case is well underway to being proven that ebay is highly selective in terminations and that they avoid terminating certain seller groups responsible for large numbers of sales and that they hide behind a shield of PRIVACY so that their tactics are not obvious.

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 Posted 02/01/2016  05:50 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add bobby131313 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Bob, post them in the appropriate forums and I will get them taken down without question, that's why I made the counterfeit forum. Just last week I got 1200 listings removed all at once from a top rated seller with over 20K feedback. The front end may not be like it used to be with the CCW, but it is much better than t was a year ago.

The back end that I have access to, along with several others, doesn't give a crap who the seller is. If the seller doesn't have a dedicated account rep I get them removed in as little as 15 minutes and usually no more than 6 hours. If the do have an account rep it can take up to 48 but it gets done.

Look here Bob, you were involved in this topic. 15 minutes.
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