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Valued Member
 United States
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That is a pic of a 1980 proof and it doesn't look like it does in person I just have a 4 mag phone camera not the best for pics
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Valued Member
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The service has a granular surface like a matte proof,it does not have the luster like other coins And as I was reading in my book it says sometimes coins get proof like finish from when the die is polished to remove lines and contact marks this is interesting if I will be able to find out what caused this or if any one else has ever found one.
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Bedrock of the Community
 United States
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Your photos do not support your claim. They show a well-worn 85D dime with a mushy strike that is not even close to cameo.
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Pillar of the Community
United States
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I've seen the '85-D with very porous texture. I don't know what causes it.
Time don't fly, it bounds and leaps.
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Valued Member
 United States
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Thank you clad king other people never read my post but you did I never claimed it was anything I only wanted to know if anyone has seen one and if they knew what caused it so at least you have saw one thank you
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Pillar of the Community
United States
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Really, most of the dimes from that time period appear similarly. Frequently it's a matter of die erosion. When the coins are struick the die receives wear and this wear can have many different appearances dependent on die pressure, flow, and the nature of the steel. For some reason some dies some times begin striking coins with a porous look and the '85-D dimes may be just an extreme example of this. My guess is that some dies used at Denver that year were very hard but the steel was bad so it broke up slightly with each strike.
Some of the coins I've seen almost look like they were pickled and it really could be a post strike chemical reaction or a planchet problem.
Part of the problem here may be that the photograph of your dime doesn't show the effect very well. Perhaps more lighting and a shallower camera angle would help.
Time don't fly, it bounds and leaps.
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Pillar of the Community
United States
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I should point out as well that I may be misinterpreting the picture. This date is still frequently found quite lustrous and if such a coin were exposed to wear as would be imparted by counting or gambling machines or if it got caught up clanging around in a clothes dryer the small marks might be seen as "cameo".
Time don't fly, it bounds and leaps.
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Valued Member
 United States
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I wish I had a better camera than my phone,it doesn't do well at showing small detail and the more magnification I use the color doesn't show right that is why on the last pic of the 1980 proof dime I was trying to show how bad my pics look.i have seen coins from a dryer and haven't seen that type of color but your explanation of what could have happened at the mint does sound right.i really appreciate your help with this thank you.i collect odd ball things like this dime it is always nice when I show it to someone now I can give a sound opinion of what might have caused it.
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New Member
Canada
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I have a coin that may be almost the same as what you have. Like you , I keep weird looking coins to check out later on and while this one I have appears frosty on both sides to the naked eye , high magnification shows me why. It has been sand blasted with a green material on one side and a redder garnet looking material on the other. Maybe just someone trying out their new blaster ,or maybe someone trying to decieve and create fake errors ? I suspect this may be the case with your coin also.    
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Bedrock of the Community
United States
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The 1985 D dime shows considerable wear on the bust so the surfaces as they are now are not the same as what it had when it left the mint. If it actually has a "matte" finish o the bust now it has been altered since it left the mint.
Edited by Conder101 02/05/2016 10:44 am
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Valued Member
 United States
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Thank you for the picture penny,i have never seen one like that.and conder I wasn't saying it had a matte finish I was just trying to describe the type of service which cladking said porous texture which was a good word to use,but we came to the conclusion that it was from a die issue,or a planchet ,or maybe even a machine caused it but that it was damaged,since I don't have good imaging I try to explain with wording to describe something in no way am I saying that it is that way,i am sorry for the confusion if I made it sound like I thought it had that type of surface it was not my intent I just had never or don't remember coming across one that way.but I thank you for your comment it is appreciated.
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Pillar of the Community
United States
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PennySaved;
The porous texture on your coin appears to be caused by being in a corrosive enviroment such as might be experienced by sitting behind a washer in a laundromat for many years.
It is consistent with how it might look after circulating for only a few years and then sitting reverse side down for a long time. It has not circulated much since it was damaged suggesting that it was recently retrieved.
Time don't fly, it bounds and leaps.
Edited by cladking 02/05/2016 12:08 pm
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Pillar of the Community
United States
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The dime looks to be normal . and cameo isn't just frosted devices. it is also clear fields and frosted devices and the contrast makes the "cameo" designation. The quarter is very obvious enviro. damage or something along those lines. it is PMD. the dime I suppose could , if you get better photos to support, be like a first strike of a dime and have somewhat of a cameo appearance But the coin in question. To me it looks like a regular D strike dime. It is also possible someone could have even polished the fields a bit but we would never know cause the pictures aren't good enough to diagnose something like that. I posted a quarter and it had been polished I didn't recognize the obvious marks but the members explained it and then I saw what was right in front of me the whole time. I love a good argument or debate you can ask anyone who has read a few of my posts, but claims have to be able to be supported. Good photos are almost always required and factual information is a must.
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