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Pillar of the Community
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Hmmmmm....there is some misalignment, but is this more a case of a worn/damaged collar? I see that the reverse rim looks good while the obverse rim is weak/missing. Strength of strike might be at play here too. Hopefully one of our experts come along with an explanation.
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Bedrock of the Community
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While interesting, the devices don't fall over the rim. Very close though. So it is a slight MAD coin.
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Pillar of the Community
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I have a few of these and still hoping to find one where some of the devices are partially gone or missing. Just didn't know if this was normally how the rim area would/should look for this MAD condition.
Thank you
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Pillar of the Community
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CC, it's my understanding a MAD is missing part of the rim on one side. If it is missing some design, interest goes up. If a coin is missing part of the rim on both sides, it is an Off-Center, and interest goes up even more. Nice find.  |
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Thanks CM, it is so much easier to understand when you all put it in plain English. I have copied your note into my homemade dictionary of terms that I have been collecting here on the forum.
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Pillar of the Community
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Is the obverse die misaligned? Maybe just a tiny bit. It appears the upper rim is under developed thus adding to the appearance of being a MAD. If I recall correctly this RDV has devices close to the rim often blending with it in later die states. I think the primary contributing factor to this coins appearance has to do more with the collar than alignment of the die.  |
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Bedrock of the Community
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It is actually the die alignment that causes a MAD coin strike. The hammer die is adjustable. The anvil is stationary. If the hammer die is out of alignment, then that side of the coin will be struck, out of alignment. That is why I called this one a slight MAD on this coin. It is so close to being correct. The taper on the edge is common also. I've seen this on many cents.
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Pillar of the Community
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I agree with Rackster and Coop. But because of the tapered edge I agree with Rackster more. When looking at the straight on pic, you can see how far the devices are from the flat spot that made contact with collar. The tapered part would indicate a portion of the proto rim that did not fully develop the rim during the strike. Had it struck up fully or a bit more in think the devices would look more normally aligned. Thanks, Doug. edit: I think the undeveloped rim gives the illusion its closer than it actually is in this case. Edited by Halo1st
02/25/2016 10:50 am
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Pillar of the Community
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Yup, I understand completely CC. I did the same thing when I first came on here, and still do on things new to me. Fortunately, some of them became embedded.
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Thank you for this post coincents I have some pennies that are similar to yours all this info will help me figure out if some might be a mad or not.
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