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1866 Three Cent Nickel

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I tried to take a picture myself, but I am just not setup yet. I will try to take a better picture this weekend, so this is the dealer photo, in the interim. Some information about this coin, apart from being an 1866 Three Cent Nickel, the white spotting is actually lint on the 2x2. On the reverse, on the right-hand side, there is what appears to be a small die break or scratch. I am leaning more towards a die break, but it is hard to tell without my microscope (which will be here this weekend). I do have the coin in hand, just no photo skills at the moment.

Maybe 5% of what I buy is raw, and I got this one from a dealer that I have dealt with in the past at a fair price.

Thoughts on grade and if it grades well enough, if it is worth sending out to a TPG?

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 Posted 03/23/2016  8:08 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add ChildOfTheWheat to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Hard to grade from inside the flip, but I'm thinking EF-35?
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Yeah, the picture is not very flattering, unfortunately. You can't see that the Roman numerals are nearly, if not completely, wear-free, etc. Since I've posted this, though, maybe it will motivate me to try and get some better pictures once I am back from the gym.
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 Posted 03/23/2016  8:33 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Kurrykid to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Nice looking coin!
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Could be MS, but I am leaning towards AU.
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Not much experience with this series but I'll hazard a guess and say that this coin is AU.
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 Posted 03/24/2016  08:05 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add jmferris to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Thanks for the replies, everyone. I am personally leaning AU, as well. The dealer I got it from tends to overgrade by a grade, and underprice by a grade. He had it as an MS with a little less than EF price.

I've compared it to some graded samples online and perhaps on a good day, it may come back as a low MS from a TPG. However, I would imagine that it would come back AU, more likely. That is what puts me on the fence about sending it out, too.

As it stands right now, I'll likely just put it in my own slab, for the time being. Either way, it is a nice looking specimen that I am more than happy with for the price.

I'll have to get pictures up of my other raws that came in yesterday - some large cents (1847, 1850, 1853, 1854, and 1855).
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If there is luster, then it is AU. If not, it is EF. But I think it will be AU.
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 Posted 03/24/2016  09:50 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add BStrauss3 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Even in AU, it's RETAIL value is 60, 70... probably not worth slabbing.
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Thanks, BStrauss3. Glad to see that the dealer was just overgrading and that the large consensus seems to be what I was thinking, too. Very happy with the purchase for the price, but I'll just throw it in a CW slab and call it a day.
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Really need to work on my setup, but here is an "out of the box" picture with the microscope. Hard to get it to focus because it is on a gooseneck right now, so adjusting the focus usually moves the scope. Have the Lighthouse stand on the way, though, which will make it much easier to dial it in. Even though it is a little out of focus, much easier to see the details on these shots.

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I prefer the 3 cent silvers, but it's a great piece of history...

The war is over. The country tired of the horrors and hardships. Coins are finally re-appearing after not being seen in the marketplace for several years. The mint is again making coins full time... 4.8m of these 1866 3cns were a part of that.
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I have always enjoyed reading about the history of this country, especially leading up to the war and the nation's recovery and rebuilding afterwards. While I have not firmly settled on the target of what I will be collecting, I am really leaning towards more of an era than any specific series. Right now, 1850 through 1900 just feels the most attractive, although there are some series that I do enjoy a bit later.
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AU-53/5... Nice!
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I am at high AU, possibly low MS with the new pictures. I think the weakness in the hair is not from wear but from the strike. The die had seen better days (nice crack on the reverse). I do not think slabbing would add to the value but if you would like to, let us know what she turns out as. Very nice example!
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I would go AU-55. This entire series suffered from weak strikes, with a few exceptions. The slight rim ding on the right is minor but might drop the value by a few $$, but not much. Very nice coin! I love the Three Cent pieces, nickel and silver. Good luck with your collecting.

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