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25 Cents 1807   |
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1807 Large Cent  |
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Nice copper & silver. Here's my one silver example: Flowing Hair  And here are a couple of gold examples: Draped Bust or Bust Right  Capped Bust or Bust Left  ET Edited by EarlyTurban
03/27/2016 09:47 am
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Here is one for the copper collectors   |
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One of my favorite coins. But I don't know if it is just me but the face on your flowing hair large cent looks different. Lets let the experts come in and decide if it is real or not.
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One of my favorite coins. But I don't know if it is just me but the face on your flowing hair large cent looks different. Lets let the experts come in and decide if it is real or not. I have strong reservations about the authenticity of that piece. The obverse most strongly resembles the S-8 and 9 varieties with the stem under the leaves that runs parallel to the date. The trouble is all of the other design details, including the face as noted, are off. The number an arrangement of the ends of the hair are not the same. The tail on the number "9" is too long. The little piece of hair above the leaves is not the same shape. S-8 and S-9 share the same obverse, but have different reverses. Once more both of those reverses resemble the reverse we see on this piece, but there are a number of subtle differences in the placement of the letters, the leaves in the wreath and the berries. I don't think this coin is genuine. It might be a Gallery Mint piece that has had the word "COPY" filled in, or it might be of later origins. Unfortunately the Chinese have copied just about everything in the U.S. copper and silver series. Sorry to be so negative. |
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Not too many of these earlier types in my collection. I'll have to rectify that in coming years.   |
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While we're on this topic I'd like to ask a question about pocket coins. I carry worn and damaged coins around. One problem I've noticed with early American silver and copper is the rapid accumulation of dirt spots. Here's an 1807 quarter, which started clean, and has been in my clean coin purse for 3 days with other old US silver:  These black tarry spots are not hiding in crevices. They're all over a well worn smooth surface on both sides of the coin. They clean off with a fingernail and rubbing with a moist finger. They can be regenerated over and over, on both copper and silver coins from this period. I've noticed similar problems carrying Spanish colonial silver coins from the same period, and wonder if something about the metallurgy or refining process causes this. "Two minutes ago I would have sold my chances for a tired dime." Fred Astaire
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Just a guess, but these early coins could have more impurities on the metal than you might think. Also the mixing of the alloys might not be that great. According to the late Herb Silberman, who was a founder of the Early American Coppers Club, metallurgical tests found traces of gold and silver in a few early large cents.
Do these dirt spots push off the coin, or are they into the metal?
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1796 Liberty Cap Large Cent S-87 An ebay purchase from about 10 years ago   |
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@billjones they're globbed right on the surface and they're stuck like tar. Just scraping with a fingernail doesn't completely remove them. I have to rub off the underlying dark spot.
I've never seen a coin for sale with spots like this, but I have no trouble creating the spots on just about any early copper or silver I carry in my pocket or coin purse. It leads me to believe that every early copper and silver circulated coin has been cleaned at some point.
"Two minutes ago I would have sold my chances for a tired dime." Fred Astaire
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