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28 Weeks: 28 Centuries Of Coins

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 Posted 08/26/2016  12:46 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Finn235 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Here's a Roman coin that's not quite so Roman

Gallic Empire
Tetricus I
271-274
AE Antoninianus
IMP TETRICVS AVG
HILARITAS AVGG

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The Gallic Empire was a breakaway state in modern-day France and southern Britain that gained official status in 260 when Gallienus failed to put down the revolt of Postumus. The new empire was able to survive for nearly 15 years under the successive rule of 5 different emperors, including Tetricus's son and co-emperor Tetricus II. The empire disappeared in 274 when Tetricus surrendered to Aurelian in exchange for the right and ability to retire and live out his years as a private citizen. Neither of the Tetricii were mentioned in history after 274.

It's noteworthy that since the Gauls did not have access to the Greek die-engravers that Rome enjoyed, such a realistically rendered portrait is extremely rare on the coins of any of the Crisis-era secessionist states.
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 Posted 08/26/2016  01:04 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Finn235 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
And the really fun and interesting part of third century coins...

Aurelian's coinage reforms were described as having the effect similar to if the US government demonetized everything smaller than a $10 bill. The far reaches of the Empire were desperately short in the small change department, so emergency small change was made. Today, these are known under the broad term "Barbarous Radiate" and encompass everything from counterfeits to extremely poor quality semi-offiical issues. Most feature either Tetricus I (He was stripped of his power, thus his coins were exempt from counterfeiting laws), or any other Crisis era emperor. Some were carved by illiterate engravers and simply cannot be attributed.

My favorites are the extremes of the degenerated designs.

Potato Emperor
ca 275-300 AD
HVRR DVRR DERP AVGG
V^V^V^V (Barbaric for "Look! I drawed a horsie!")

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Hot-lips Emperor
ca. 275-300 AD
-OO AVG
PAX AVG?

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 Posted 08/26/2016  10:46 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add antwerpen2306 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
very nice coins for this week;
I love this Gallic coins : cheap and a lot of work to identify .
One of Tetricus I :the most normal looking I have
16 mm , 2.08 gr , die 6 h
270-273 .

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a Roman denarius of Macrinus : 217-218
Macrinus 217-218
IMPerator Caius Marcus OPELius SEVerus MACRINUS AUGUSTUS
FIDES MILITUM
Rome,RIC67
20 mm , 2.95 gr , die 12 h

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A Greek one :
Troas Alaxandria
AE22 , 22 mm , 6,127 gr , die 12 h
Bellinger A486,var .
Tyche with vexillun : AUgusta COlonia TROas , on vexillum : COlonia AUgusta
Horse : COLonia ALexandria AUgusta , in exergue : TROas
This reverse inscription is only found for coins dating from the time of Alexander Severus . albert



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 Posted 08/26/2016  11:12 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Finn235 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Those are nice ones!

Once you get over the poor lettering and barbarous issues, the Gallic emperors are actually pretty fun to collect.

What does confuse me is the crazy range in sizes, especially within the Tetricus I issues. I have a few smaller ones like yours (not as nice though) and a few larger ones... I think the one I posted was over 23mm. Maybe inflation hit them really hard? I know that the issues of Claudius II really took a nose dive during his short tenure.
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Short detour from Roman coins

Western Kshatrapas  (AKA Western Satraps)
I think Visvasimha, 275-280 AD
AR Drachm
Generalized bust of the Satrap, with date behind head, the rest is a blundered Greek legend
Three hills with sun and moon above, river below, Brahmi legend " rajno mahakshatrapasa rudrasenaputrasa rajnah kshatrapasa visvasihasa"

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The Western Satraps were originally provincial governors of the Indo-scythian empire, but grew to become autonomous and established a modest empire in the central-western portion of the subcontinent. They dated all of their coins  in their own calendar (which started in what we call AD 78) and listed their father in the reverse legend. Thus, simply from the coins we have a clear picture of the time line of their dynasty and its family tree.
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 Posted 08/27/2016  01:54 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Finn235 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Here's a tougher emperor to find:

Numerian 282-284
Antoninianus
IMP C M NUMERIANUS P F AVG
VIRTVS AVGG
Numerian (left) receiving globe and Victory from Carus (right)
XXI in exergue
H in lower center field, star in upper center field

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Numerian can be considered to be the "last" of the Crisis emperors, since he was immediately succeeded by Diocletian, who brought everything back into check. Numerian spent his entire short tenure on campaing against Persia with his father Carus, while his brother Carinus kept order on the other side of the world. He is thought to have died from a plague, but contemporary Roman sources claim that he was poisoned by an unknown figure close to him.
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Nice Indian coin , I saw yesterday one on the Indian eBayseller , but here in Belgium we have a lot of problems to import anything of more than about 25 US$ from not EU countries.
Nice Numerian coin also , with the XXI in exergue , it is also called an aurelianus , after the emperor who made a coin reform about 10 years earlier .
To close this century , three coins of Caracalla ( 188-217) at about 12 , 22 and 26 years . Look the evolution of the portrait.

ANTONINUS AUGUSTUS
PONTIFex TRibuniciae Potestati III,
17 mm , 3,2 gr , die 11 h
RIC141,Rome 200

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ANTONINUS PIUS AUGustus BRITannicus
MARTI PROPUGNATORI
18 mm , 3,2 gr , die 6 h
Rome 210. Ric223

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ANTONINUS PIUS AUGustus GERManicus
Pontifex Maximus TRibuniciae Potestati XVII COnSul III Pater Patriae ,
18 mm , 2,79 gr , die 12 h
Rome 214, RIC240 . albert
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 Posted 08/27/2016  2:54 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Spence to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Here is a Tetradrachm of Emperor Probus from Alexandria. It was minted in 280/281 AD. The attribution is Vagi 2467.


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On to the 2nd Century! Here is a Roman Semis from Faustina the Younger. It was minted 147-175 AD and my attribution is Vagi 1562. FAUSTINA AUGUSTA on the obv and Juno with peacock on the rev.

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 Posted 08/28/2016  10:12 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add DavidUK to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Hadrian, M Aurelius, Faustina major and minor denarius...

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 Posted 08/28/2016  11:20 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Kefiroth to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I am briefly back in the game this week, with denarii of Hadrian, Antoninus Pius and Marcus Aurelius:

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Those are some mighty fine denarii!
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Gorgeous coins @Kefiroth and @DavidUK!
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I can say only one thing : WOW... difficult to see this quality .
I begin with 3 denarii,first Hadrianus , then Faustina Maior and then her husband Antoninus Pius .
It are fourree denarii , faked during the lifetime of the represented person.
Hadrianus : 117-138
obv:IMPerator CAESAR TRAIANus HADRIANUS AUGUSTUS
rev:Pontifex Maximus TRibuniciae Potestati COnSul III
18 mm , 2.71 gr , die 6 h ,
Ric 80 , struck Rome 123
This is a normal fourree denarius, a copy of a real one


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Faustina Maior : +141 ,wife of Antoninus Pius.
obv: FAUSTINA AUGUST
rev: MONETA AUGusti
18 mm , 3.1 gr , die 6 h
Rome , struck 139-141
Ref : obv : RICFaustinaAugusta335 , rev : RICAntoninusPius76
This fourree has an obverse of Faustina and a reverse of her husband the emperor

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Antoninus Pius 138-161
obv DIVUS ANTONINUS
rev:DIVO PIO
17 mm , 2,67 gr, die6 h
RIC441,Rome after 161
Very nice coin , but there is a problem with the weight.In hand , you can see it is copper and silver;albert

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Some nice genuine fakes there, Albert! The quality of some of the fourees is amazing. The Faustina especially looks like it was made with real dies on a plated planchet... maybe even an inside job at a mint, where an employee "disposed" of a worn out die to retrieve it later for illegitimate use?
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