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Cool Cng Auction Coins And Their Backstory

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There are two exceptional coins, each a Vonones I tetradrachm, in CNG's current e-auction that I think are worthy of a few words. The coins are linked here:

http://cNGCoins.com/Coin.aspx?CoinID=314660
http://cNGCoins.com/Coin.aspx?CoinID=314661

The backstory involves Musa, a scheming and incestuous Roman concubine who was given by Augustus to the Parthian King Phraates IV during a period in which the empires weren't warring. She and her (and Phraates') son Phraataces poisoned Phraates, then married each other and took over the Parthian throne as co-rulers from 2 BC until being overthrown by the Parthian nobility in 4 AD. During their joint reign mother/son/husband/wife issued coins that show both of their images. While their drachms are rare (mine is below), their surviving, unaltered tetradrachms are much, much rarer.

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What does any of this have to do with the Vonones I tets in the CNG auction? Well, I'm getting there.

Prior to claiming the Parthian throne, Vonones, who was a brother of Phraataces, had been captive in Rome as part of a treaty the Romans made with their father Phraates IV. Around 6 AD Augustus sent Vonones to Parthia to be king. Things did not go well: "...the refined, or effeminate, habits that he had acquired in Rome soon disgusted his subjects (and) he showed a marked distaste for such typically Parthian occupations as hunting and riding." (Wroth) He ended up battling against another member of the Arsacid clan, Artabanus II, for the rulership. Eventually Artabanus won out and had Vonones murdered.

But while he was claimant to the throne, Vonones issued coins that had his name spelled out in Greek (it was very atypical for Parthian rulers to do this), along with the legend translating as "conqueror of Artabanus" - commemorating a temporary victory over his rival.

Many of Vonones' tetradrachms are overstruck on the tets that his brother Phraataces struck with his mother/wife Musa. While this may have been done for expediency given how quickly Vonones became immersed in the political power struggle with Artabanus, it seems to me that overstriking coins of his father's murderers may have brought some sense of satisfaction.

My own Vonones I tet, like so many of these, shows evidence of overstriking BUT without any clear reading of the known Phraataces/Musa undertype:

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And this is what makes the CNG coins so special. Rarely (very rarely!) is the Phraataces/Musa undertype clearly visible on Vonones I tets. Yet it is remarkably easy to see in the coins now up for auction. I show the undertype first, below...Phraataces/Musa tets such as this are extremely rare and valuable. Below that I've rotated the first auction coin to make the comparison to the undertype clearer. On the second coin Phraataces' portrait is clear, but not so Musa's.

Phraataces/Musa tetrdrachm, Sellwood 58.5
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Vonones I tets currently up for auction at CNG:
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Very interesting coin and back ground information. Are you going after this coin? If so hope your able to add it to your collection.
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Well, here's the thing. The other day I mentioned to my wife that CNG has a really nice selection of Parthians up for bid right now. The response was just a disinterested "hmmmphf." That's never a good sign. We've had a lot of expensive home repair projects over the past month, so the timing is lousy. We'll see...I may wait 'til she's in a really good mood, then hit her with the sad puppy eyes. Problem is she's developed an immunity to those eyes over the past 27 years.
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Boy, the "good old days" were pretty rough for the upper class, what with murder, backstabbing, incest and other nasty things going on. How nice that our political intrigue is so much more sophisticated.
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I know how you feel, I see so many coins I want but do to budget and how my wife giving me the evil eye I usually opt for the more cheaper ones. You know what they say. "A happy wife is a happy life". Still together after 44 years.
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Yep, Ron, I suspect many who frequent this board are familiar with where we're coming from, and are just as familiar with that evil eye you describe. 44 years! Mazel tov!
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How nice that our political intrigue is so much more sophisticated.


Yes, Oriole! We've made HUUUUUGE strides. YYHHUUUGE.
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Great writeup on some interesting coins. Thanks Bob.
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Thanks, Orfew.
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Too expensive for my blood on these, but very happy to live vicariously through your purchases Bob!
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It's tough being hooked on the "hobby of kings" when all you have is peasant money, but the stories behind the coins make them especially hard to resist. Maybe the CNG gods will smile and you'll get it for a good price. Good luck!
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just last week I was reading about musa last week in a copy of sellwood someone was nice enough to get me. I have trouble keeping everyone straight, but her story is so interesting it stuck in my mind instantly.

another line that struck me was the orodes iii fellow who was assassinated on the grounds of "cruelty"...which sounds ...well...kind of funny.


interesting coin and write up bob!
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Awesome coins Bob. And the backstory is fascinating - makes these coins come alive. As for the wife.....can't help you there! Sorry.

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Thanks, all...glad you enjoyed the write-up.
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Interesting write up... love that first drachm of yours, sweet looking coin combined with interesting backstory always makes for a valued addition to a collection.
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