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Counterfeit 1877 Trade Dollar

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 Posted 06/21/2016  1:24 pm Show Profile   Bookmark this topic Add qaz to your friends list Get a Link to this Message Number of Subscribers
This coin was offered to me earlier today and I am not sure if it is real. Comments please

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 Posted 06/21/2016  3:09 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add syeb to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I don't know Trade dollars well enough but I do know photos. You should upload a larger and better quality pic than this one or will get no responses.

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 Posted 06/21/2016  3:22 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Alpha2814 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Would help to see the reverse as well.
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 Posted 06/21/2016  3:23 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add qaz to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I do not have the coin. This is the pic sent to me by the seller. I do not have a pic of the other side either.
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 Posted 06/21/2016  3:26 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add bobby131313 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I'd stay away then, these are one of the most counterfeited coins on the planet.
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 Posted 06/21/2016  3:38 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add qaz to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I have aske the seller to send me cleare pics of both sides.
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 Posted 06/21/2016  5:03 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Coinfrog to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Let us know. Do be careful - buying a raw Trade dollar is risky business these days.
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 Posted 06/21/2016  6:19 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add UltraRant to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
With a pic that would even make ants look for a microscope and no pic of the reverse, I'd stay away from this one as far as possible.

Nevertheless, how much does the seller ask for it?
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 Posted 06/22/2016  3:36 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add qaz to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I have now seen pics of both sides. It has a Type 2 Obverse with a Type 2 Reverse. Is there still a chance that it is fake. The asking price is $200 Canadian dollars.
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 Posted 06/22/2016  8:52 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Captain Jack to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Trade dollars are counterfeited like mad... do not trust it without large quality pictures and figuring out the diagnostics... The Chinese are pumping these out like nobody's business....
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You can find a 1877 VF 30 for under $200 in a slab and a XF 45 for around $300 US dollars. Do not buy a raw Trade dollar unless you have a trusted source.
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 Posted 06/23/2016  1:00 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add qaz to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply

These are the best and most recent pics that the seller has sent to me. Both sides are Type 2 which is correct. Is there still a chance that it can be fake.

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 Posted 06/23/2016  1:07 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Dustin6 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
There is always a chance for something to be faked, I'm not familiar with these and there authenticity though.
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 Posted 06/23/2016  2:14 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add syeb to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Maybe I got lucky but the last three raw Trade dollars I bought from random sellers on ebay all made it into NGC slabs. I was fully expecting at least one of the three to be fake.
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The following would give me concern about the coin's authenticity: I only see three fingers in the hand holding the branch and the stem in the branch appears thick. The arrows held by the eagle's claw are thick and jagged. The details in the eagle wings are not sharp.
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 Posted 06/23/2016  5:32 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Alex12780 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
also don't take my word for it but the feathers look a little odd.
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