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New Purchase: Achaemenid AR Siglos

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Woke up to a surprise that I had won this one overnight, for a bit under $40:

New-Purchase:-Achaemenid-AR-Siglos New-Purchase:-Achaemenid-AR-Siglos

Ostensibly a type IIIb AR siglos of Darius I or Xerxes I, ca 486 BC. 15mm / 5.49g

"Great King" kneeling, holding bow and arrow / Rectangular punch

It's got a nasty scratch, but the figure has a full face with visible bow and arrow. I'll have to see how it looks in hand when it arrives.

How did I do? Is the seller's attribution of the type correct?
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06/24/2016 2:33 pm
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The scratch looks more like a punch mark to me.
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 Posted 06/24/2016  2:43 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add echizento to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Nice coin. Here is an excellent reference to the type and the counter marks found on them. http://www.forumancientcoins.com/nu...p?key=siglos
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 Posted 06/24/2016  2:57 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Kamnaskires to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Nice pick up. The countermark appears to be a variant (mirror) of type 177.
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Congratulations on winning this. One of my favorite historical periods, and wish I had a Darius or Xerxes.
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Well done, looks like good value to me...
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These are always fun. The usual reading of the iconography for Carradice type IIIb is that the obverse figure carries a bow in his outstretched arm and a spear transversely in his other hand held across his body.

As for the punch mark, it is odd that the chart at Forum doubles up that particular mark. The form on this coin is actually rather often seen, but it was not included in the original chart by Hill. Perhaps the editor at Forum had intended to flip it as a subvariety, but didn't quite follow through - ending up with a double listing.

Anyone know why?
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 Posted 06/30/2016  10:02 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add paul27613 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Humorously enough the Carradice book is far far more expensive than most sigloi, if you can even find it!!

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That unfortunately seems to be the case with most reference books on obscure areas of numismatics. Huszar for medieval Hungarian coins is more expensive than a nearly complete set of them!
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Good pick up interestingly a number of the Archaemenid coins continued to be struck under Alexander the Great at a Secondary Babylon Mint for local circulation. The primary mint in Babylon however began to strike coins of the Macedonian Standard. This continued even under the rule of Seleucus I.
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