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We need more books and price guides on individual groups of non-USA coins with pictures. I would like a book on just segments of world coins and not some huge book with no pictures and prices for every world coin in existence which is what I have now.


Such books exist for every numismatic area. The Krause catalog isn't the only world coin catalog in existence.
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So I finally got around to pricing this out

For a basic Morgan collection of 117 key coins based on buying the highest grade of each available for under $500, or if that coin isn't available for under $500 then the lowest grade/least expensive coin then it would be in the $40,000 to $50,000 range which is affordable

For the PL set, looking at DMPL prices, just to get the 100 key coins would be $250,000 +, a little past my range. I am assuming PL is less than DMPL so I will look at those

meanwhile I am working on filling in the first set and buying the DMPL's that strike my fancy. I may never complete a set of them but they are nice to buy
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I think you can do better than 50K if you just rule out the 1895 proof and get the 93-S in just F, some others in VF to AU and the common ones in MS. I lack 12 Morgans to make a set. You can buy 50% of Morans in MS condition and quite a few in AU for much less than $500. The really tough ones I have in VF to EF. There are less than a dozen Morgans that really put getting a set in MS out of the question for most of us. If I had a couple of hundred grand I just wanted to spend I would got after all of the Morgans except the 93-S and 95 proof in at least MS60. The thing is , of course, I may have a couple of hundred K but they are in stocks that pay dividends so I can pay my taxes. Coins just don't work that way. I think I could just about get all the coins I want in EF to AU for $500 to $1000. There would be a couple that would be much more expensive in almost any grade. The 1894 is one of the best deals out there IMO. Mintage of 110,000 for $1000 in AU condition. Somebody is going to wake up and realize this coin is undervalued. Only 10,000 more than the 93-S and the 94 goes for $8000 in MS64 and for the 93-S the price is $300,000 in the same condition. Did all the 93-S coins just disappear or did all the 94's just get saved in a vault and thrown on the market? I just don't know enough about how each Morgan dollar is valued. I started collecting them and just got hooked.
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I know I could do better than $50K but remember my goal was to get the highest grade for under $500 per coin so it includes a bunch of MS-66, 65, and 64's. $50K spread over 5 to 7 years isn't all that bad it's about $125 to $150 per week or about a coin a month. Almost half are 64 or better and 3/4 are 60 or better

in this case $500 fit my budget and time frame

if you set a limit of $250 you could probably be under to $25K and still get some 64's in there. There are still around 20-25 or so Morgans in MS-64 for under $100 and another 30 or so between $100 and $250
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There are even a number of MS65's you can get for less than $250. There is nothing wrong with your plan. You know the so-called experts say to buy the key dates first but with Morgans you would be broke with your first couple of purchases. It does start to grind a bit when I pay more than $500 for a coin but I have done it in the past and I will do it again when the mood comes on me. The most I ever spent was $1300 for a 1923-s LSQ in EF condition that was slabbed and graded. I also bought a 1937 3 legged Buffalo nickel that cost me over $600, but it was worth it.
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I'm trying a little of both. For instance I have the 1880-S in MS-66 on my list so I look at all the examples that I see on ebay, Great Collections, etc. If I come across one that looks good for the grade and the price is good I will buy it even if it isn't a key date. I figure if I buy one out of five or so as key dates eventually I will have everything I need. So I am neither buying all the keys up front or saving them all for the end

What is fun on the non keys is given the selection I can be choosy. If there are multiple examples of a common coin in a given grade I can pick what looks like the best to me. Not all MS-64's are created equal some are better strikes, have more definition, etc. so there is room to play.
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I have a few AU58 coins that look better than MS63's. I took one of my less common AU58 Morgans to my LCS and the owner thought it was close to DMPL because of the deep finish and the striking detail. I don't know how that could be but I do have some very nice AU Morgans that are really bargains compared to MS Morgans that just do not look that great. If I could get 12 of the Morgans on my list in AU50 I would jump for joy.
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