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Well, I've Decided To Start Selling Coins On Ebay...

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 Posted 01/16/2017  08:42 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Smallcentguy to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I am now self insuring coins selling at $100 to $200. I think that the buyer looks at the all-in price. So if you charge more for shipping, it just comes off the sales price. With tracked US shipping at about $17 vs. $1 for regular mail, you have to have 1 in 6 things at $100 go missing to make up for the shipping. I find the actual loss rate is less than 1 in 100. Also, I had my first tracked packet to the US go missing a month or two back.....very disappointing. It looks like I will get my basic $100 back from the post office but it will still be a loss of $100. So if you really want safety, use FedEx.

As far as the $0.99 start goes, after quite a few mistakes/disapointments I am getting better at figuring out when to go at $0.99 and when not too. Generally, coins that have a broad following are safe to sell on that basis. So, for example, if I were selling a 1948 dollar in EF, I would not worry about where I started it. It will sell at "market" with lots of bidders and followers. If the coin is an esoteric one, be careful. I find that the most dangerous things to sell are the high value foreign coins. Coins that theoretically are worth $100 or $200 can sell at melt value....or less.

The big advantage of the $0.99 start is that you will get a lot more people following your auction and can lead to a higher price. If I try to sell, say, an off-centre cent error worth $25 with a $0.99 start I might get 20 or 25 watchers and it proabbly sells at $20 to $30. If I start the coin at $25, it might easily go unsold.
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 Posted 01/16/2017  08:47 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add doubleeagle59 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Everyone who says 'don't start at 0.99 because you won't get full value' is dead wrong, in my opinion.

Starting at 0.99 on ebay will do two things: 1. it'll get your item sold and 2. it'll get today's 'full value'.

I'm of the belief that the ebay selling price id full value.

True, it's a lot less than ten years ago, but that's the reality in today's depressed market.

Have you seen all the auctions collecting dust on ebay listed at full Trends value?

If you're serious about selling, start at 0.99.
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 Posted 01/16/2017  08:51 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add terry8835 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Yes, if auctions start at the full retail price they go nowhere! I see lots of so-called auctions with reserve prices that are full retail or those "Buy it Now" things. I don't even touch those things unless their is "best offer" clause.
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 Posted 01/16/2017  09:05 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add doubleeagle59 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
One last comment about 'full price'.

'Full price' on ebay is anywhere between 40% and 70% of trends.

Most likely about 55%.

This is the reality of the market.

If you're not prepared to sell for this amount, I would recommend don't even waste your time listing the coin(s).
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 Posted 01/16/2017  09:18 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add BigSilver to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I have been selling on ebay for about 2 years. I have learned a number of good lessons.
I agree that auctions that start much higher than .99 often get no bids even though the price is still below what the auction will eventually realize. That being said, there are certain coins that are "safe" to do .99 start no reserve auctions and others that are not. General rule- if you have a large target audience and an affordable coin, pretty safe. A more specific audience such as varieties, vams, foreign coin and the likes, or if most of the audience wont be able to afford the coin, like large gold coins less safe.
Whatever you do- Good Luck
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 Posted 01/16/2017  1:38 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Wade to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
ebay is true market value. the fees you pay are about the same as what the dealer will deduct from his final price, with the advantage of having 100s of potential customers looking at your item within a week.

I've found auctions that end on Sunday evenings do far better than something that ends mid week or mid day.

Good luck

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 Posted 01/16/2017  2:02 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add doubleeagle59 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
At 50% of trends from ebay, is a whole lot better than any coin store/dealer would offer.

Someone mentioned trying Kijiji.

I wouldn't want all the local people knowing my business and my home address.

Then you have all the haggling that goes on.....no thanks!!
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 Posted 01/16/2017  4:43 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add justanothercoinaddict to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Please let us know where you eventually put your collection up for sale, whether it be the BST or ebay. I am working on three albums, large cent, ten cents and twenty-five cents and I have a lot of holes to fill!
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 Posted 01/16/2017  5:47 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add nickelsguy to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Good luck yo both of you! I believe you will do fine as you have done your home work. MM
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 Posted 01/16/2017  8:09 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add AgHoarder to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Thank you all for the great advice! All of which, I will take into consideration. THAT is what makes CCF special!

Today I got home late from work and will shoot for tomorrow to start listing coins. I plan on starting slower, more common stuff with the odd better date/key date thrown in. This will allow me time to test the market and get a feel for the amount of effort it takes to sell online.

I've also decided (despite some smart people advising not to), to start each auction at 0.99$ and see how that works out. I can change my approach if that does not work for me.

I will update the thread when I go "online".

Thank you all!
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 Posted 01/16/2017  8:59 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add aghawk to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Thanks for posting this topic. I've just started (again) listing on ebay after having recently moved. So far I am disappointed by the lack of viewers and interest. Hoping that an auction at my local coin club will be more successful. Kijiji has also been not bad in the past but I live in a much less densely populated area now and not as many people are interested.
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 Posted 01/16/2017  9:07 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add AgCoinAu to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I just felt the need to post again so that three poster's in a row would have the start of their name as "Ag"..... heheheheh carry on
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 Posted 01/16/2017  11:49 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add kbbpll to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
This is cynical, sarcastic, and yet, in my experience truthful, advice. If you want to get the best price for these .99 ebay auctions, have your shill bidder lined up. Yes, it's sad and disgusting.
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 Posted 01/17/2017  12:35 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add AgCoinAu to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Personally I don't think I could ever do that....

If I sell something I think the min. will be the least I could let it go for... or I will have a reserve... shilling is just cheating the system IMO
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 Posted 01/17/2017  01:28 am  Show Profile   Check Pacificoin's eBay Listings Bookmark this reply Add Pacificoin to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Yup. The old 99 cent auction fail! Start selling like that on ebay and you are sure to get crucified.
To be SUCCESSFUL selling coins or any other collectible on ebay you need more than luck and wishful thinking.
A business background , a large and varied inventory and deep pockets are a very good start. Here is why.
First having a store whether it is bricks and mortar or online requires a solid ability to run a money making operation. Most businesses fail in the first year .
You cannot sell the same old stuff as everyone else unless you are prepared to give it away. Competition of this sort results in what is called a race to the bottom. Keep your inventory varied and be prepared to adapt or die if you don't.
Cash and cash flow are huge if you are to be successful. Remember , when you first start to sell on ebay the amount you are allowed to sell is minimal and you have restricted access to your funds,
Also selling on ebay is awfully hard work especially until you get some systems in place . That said all the best in your endeavours.
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