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Kamnaskires Pillar of the Community United States 7066 Posts	Posted 08/24/2019 7:02 pm Well, I'll give it a shot: 1 = Harsha 2 = Sangrama 3 = Sangrama 4 = Kalasa 5= Didda Rani 6 = Harsha 7 = Sangrama Report this Post to the Staff
allranger Pillar of the Community United States 1391 Posts	Posted 08/24/2019 11:48 pm This is very useful. Thank you for taking the time to compile this information. Report this Post to the Staff
Palouche Pillar of the Community Spain 2752 Posts	Posted 08/26/2019 07:01 am Thanks Ben and allranger...I'm glad it was helpful.. Spot on Bob! Top of the class! Its worth knowing these 4 rulers constitute probably 98% of the auctions on ebay and the like...So if you come across one that doesn't fit these 4 you've invariably got yourself a slightly rarer coin! If you guys are interested I can start to post identification pages of each individual ruler..giving detailed breakdowns and historical facts...? I'll wait and see if there is any interest...? Let me know.....Paul Report this Post to the Staff
allranger Pillar of the Community United States 1391 Posts	Posted 08/26/2019 11:38 am Paul, I would find it helpful. I have a huge interest in Indian coins but am hampered by the lack on information available in English. I have two of these coins, one I have tentatively identified as being "Didda Rani." I would like to know what I am looking for to expand out my collection. I find the red marks on the coins identifying what you should be looking at very helpful. Report this Post to the Staff
Palouche Pillar of the Community Spain 2752 Posts	Posted 02/08/2020 02:12 am Here's a recent upgrade of Kalasa (1063-1089)...19mm - 5.76 grams One of the more common rulers in this series but a real challange to find one with a full obverse legend. This one has nice detail even showing some of the facial features. An easy coin to identify with that 'KA' symbol always to the left.. Report this Post to the Staff
Kamnaskires Pillar of the Community United States 7066 Posts	Posted 02/08/2020 09:01 am Great looking coin, Paul. A fine upgrade with clear devices. Report this Post to the Staff
Palouche Pillar of the Community Spain 2752 Posts	Posted 02/08/2020 3:06 pm Thanks Bob!..... Considering how common this rulers coins are, believe it or not, its actually been quite difficult to find a coin with a full legend showing that elusive 'RA' at the end coupled with nice detail....So very pleased to have ticked this box!....Paul Report this Post to the Staff
Palouche Pillar of the Community Spain 2752 Posts	Posted 02/22/2020 3:14 pm @echizento...Ron I don't know if it's possible to change the title of this thread to 'Ancient Kashmir coinage'?...It would be more appropriate now?...Thanks Last year I decided to extend this series from its Hindu origins spreading out into the Muslim take over and beyond. A goal I've set myself (Oh no not another!) is to link the Hindu rulers as chronologically close as possible to the first Muslm Sultan...At this moment in time I have a Jagadeva 1199-1213 linked to a Zain-ul-abdin 1418-1470. A span of 205 years! I'll see what I can do... The last Hindu ruler I possess is of Jaga Deva (see above) who died in 1213 AD...Over the next 100 years or so Kashmir went into a state of turmoil, decline and chaos...Subsequent Hindu rulers (see list below) became increasingly corrupt, less influencial and unable or unwilling to defend their borders from the ensuing Muslim threat. This allowed the inevitable ingression of Islam into Kashmir with many Hindus converting to the new faith. Most of these later rulers had no real power and were basically puppet figures for the nobility, dignitaries and the ever increasing influence of Islam.....Some of them were even ousted from Kashmir altogether! I will continue to collect these coins as and when they surface but these later rulers are really difficult to find!... Jagadeva 1199-1213 Rajadeva 1213-1235 Samgramadeva 1235-1252 Ramadeva 1252-1273 Laksmandadeva 1273-1286 Simhadeva 1286-1301 Suhadeva 1301-1320 Rincana 1320-1323 Udyanadeva 1323-1338 Queen Kotarani 1338-1339 The last Hindu ruler of Kashmir was Queen Kotarani who was killed by her Muslim minister Shah Mirza in 1339. He then took control, taking the title of 'Shams ud din shah' and became the first 'true' Muslim ruler of Kashmir starting the 'Shah Mir' Dynasty which ran from 1339 AD through to 1561 AD. Shams ud din shah 1339-1342 AD Jamshed 1342-1344 AD Alau ud din 1344-1355 AD Shahab ud din 1355-1373 AD Qutub ud din 1373-1389 AD Sikandar Butshikan 1389-1413 AD Ali Shah 1413-1418 AD As far as I know no coins are accredited to any of these first 7 muslim rulers..? But I'm all ears!...(Maybe Ali Shah?) The first accredited coin of a Kashmir Sultan that I know of was the younger son of Sikander Butshikan his name was 'Shahi Khan' and was to become the eighth sultan of Kashmir. He then took the title Zain-ul-abdin and ruled from 1418-1470 AD. Also known as Bud-shah 'The great king', a learned and fundamentally peaceful man who loved literature, art and music but was also aware of the importance in protecting his borders, continually sending armies to quell any small uprising that occurred and even retaking and suppressing the fractuous areas of Ladakh, Baltistan and Ohind, areas that his grandfather Sikandar Butshikan had conquered previously. One thing that's quite appealing to me is that these Muslim rulers had copper and silver coinage...Problem is the silver can be quite expensive! So I'll stick with the coppers at the moment... Anyhow here's the first coin of which I have two showing different aspects of the text... Help with the written text would be most appreciated... Kashmir Sultan - Zain-ul-abdin - 1 Kaserah (1418-1470 AD) 5.80gr/20.20mm diameter. Obverse..A horizontal band with an ornate knot separates the text.. Above the band is written Al-sultan al-a'zam (Supreme Sultan) Below the band is written the Sultans name 'Zain-ul-abdin'. Reverse..Apparently written the place it was struck (Kashmir) The month and the year.. Report this Post to the Staff
Kamnaskires Pillar of the Community United States 7066 Posts	Posted 02/22/2020 10:46 pm Well, there goes Paul down another rabbit hole. Neat new direction - looking forward to following the expansion of the series. Report this Post to the Staff
Palouche Pillar of the Community Spain 2752 Posts	Posted 02/25/2020 08:25 am Thanks Bob... Its been really interesting reading up on this era.. These coins are actually more difficult to find than I initially thought especially with readable legends. They can be quite well worn, struck heavily offset or a mix of both..But the main criteria I have is that the Sultans name must be identifiable.... Paul Report this Post to the Staff
Palouche Pillar of the Community Spain 2752 Posts	Posted 03/15/2020 06:26 am Kashmir Sultan coinage had its own weight standards unlike other Sultans. Copper coins.. The Kaserah. ranged from 5-6 grams.Approx 20mm diameter. Half Kaserah ranged from 2-3 grams.Approx 16mm diameter. Silver coins.. The Sasnu weighed around 6.2 grams roughly square. Next up is Hasan Shah AD 1472-1484..(AH 876-889) He was the grandson of Zain-ul-abdin.. A Sultan who was a great lover of music maintaining 1200 musicians in his court at all times. But whom also had a serious drinking problem and was heavily addicted to strong alchoholic drinks. His copper coins are very easy to distinguish from the other rulers as the horizontal band that seperates the text on the obverse has a very simple non-decorative circular knot....This circle can be large, small and can sometimes have a raised dot in the centre...See below.. Here are my two examples.... 1st coin .....approx 20.00mm / 5.55 gr 2nd coin......approx 18.65mm / 5.40 gr I've had a great deal of assistance from drnsreedhar and other experts in the readings of the text. Now because of their help can at least read the obverse of these coins. The reverse generally names the mint "Zarb Kashmir" and the date written out in words in Arabic but are generally in a very crude style. Reads..Zarb Kashmir (Struck at Kashmir) / Fi Shahur sanh (In the months of the year) / tis'in / wa samanmayah (and eight hundred)...From the examples on 'zeno' his coins had a frozen date AH874 ? Here's the slowly growing set.... Report this Post to the Staff
Kamnaskires Pillar of the Community United States 7066 Posts	Posted 03/15/2020 07:16 am Quote: Next up is... Report this Post to the Staff
Wular New Member India 16 Posts	Posted 03/30/2020 6:40 pm Hello! Has anyone come across thee coins in the Kashmir series? Probably the obverse reads as 'Shri Shri Ma and perhaps Pa/Va. Reverse: De Va Any help is highly appreciated! Thanks in advance. Report this Post to the Staff
Wular New Member India 16 Posts	Posted 03/30/2020 6:54 pm Found another one which is hard to attribute. Maybe obverse reads " Shri Shri/Shvi?, Cha, Ja Reverse : DevYa Report this Post to the Staff
Wular New Member India 16 Posts	Posted 03/30/2020 7:02 pm Any idea about the ruler who issued this coin? Obverse legend: Shri Pa Ra Man (dot above Ma) Ti Reverse legend: De VA? Report this Post to the Staff
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