A Fun One. 1880-O "over-Polished" Reverse

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twodsonegf Rest in Peace United States 637 Posts	Posted 01/31/2017 12:04 pm The EDS/LDS thing confuses me with this particular variety because it seems that typically later die states of this type are more collapses, yet LVA says that the EDS is much more extreme than the LDS. PL fields... maybe that is why he called it EDS. I wonder if there was a mid-die state re-working of sorts, hence the PL fields. A good example is the 1883-O VAM-1C series... VAM-1C1 can be found in DMPL with almost no over-polishing at all, and as the die progresses in its life it becomes more and more collapsed. I've been trying to wrap my head around the whole V78 EDS thing for a little while now wondering how the collapsing seemingly wore away in later die states. I am going to guess something happened to the dies between the "EDS" and "LDS." Report this Post to the Staff
dave700x Rest in Peace United States 10625 Posts	Posted 01/31/2017 12:23 pm I would think something had to take place to make the more collapsed die state PL. Quote: I am beginning to think I need to start looking in melt bins to find a full blown 1C3. I've been watching the ebay melt bin for some time now looking for a circulated 1C3. That's how I came across this one (not a 1C3 of course, but) http://goccf.com/t/227654&SearchTerms=1883 Edited by dave700x 01/31/2017 12:24 pm Report this Post to the Staff
twodsonegf Rest in Peace United States 637 Posts	Posted 01/31/2017 5:16 pm Yes, my thoughts exactly. LVA is the $ guru though, so I am just trying to figure out why he decided to call the crazier one an EDS. Only thing I can think of is the PL fields... Report this Post to the Staff
twohawks Pillar of the Community United States 1551 Posts	Posted 01/31/2017 10:28 pm This "My Opinion" while looking at my 1891 O V-19. As the die collapsed, the outer shell of the die became more work hardened and stretched giving it the appearance of being proof like. And looking at what I see and an EDS the fields are far less "distorted" looking at the V-19 there is NO WAY to polish this die flat with out removing a great deal of the reliefs in the die. And just striking more coins would not make this die look better in the traditional way. Report this Post to the Staff
twodsonegf Rest in Peace United States 637 Posts	Posted 02/01/2017 10:17 am Right, thanks for confirming my suspicion Russ. Not sure if I should email Leroy regarding this or just let it go, but I am with you that the "EDS" likely came after the "LDS" in this case, where LVA called the later die state "EDS" due to reflectivity. The coin is @PCGS right now and I am hoping for a 58 PL :) Once it comes back I will get some better photos. In the meantime I hope to find more "over-polished" reverse varieties. Report this Post to the Staff
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