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Pillar of the Community
United States
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Wow, that's extremely scary. The good news is that now I'm going to start taking an even harder look on raw coins now.
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New Member
United States
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Hello, That Morgan does look "wrong" doesn't it? A nice clear picture would be great, but her face just doesn't look right; the ears, lips, hair, and the reverse has a lot of what look like doubled stars, and the chest feathers seem to be incorrect for a coin in good condition. And look at the uneven rim. From what I can see I would go with it being a fake. That sucks, so if you paid with a credit card, and it does prove to be a fake, make sure you report it and get a refund.
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Australia
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G'day, if you look at the left hand side of your screen, you'll see a link to "US Coin Facts", and from there, you'll quickly find the specifications of the coins you're interested in.
I'd check the weight first. That's usually light by 10 grams or so in a counterfeit.
If your coin is light, no amount of visiting coin shops will salvage it.
Peter in Oz
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United States
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Dave,
Thanks for the suggestions..I'll follow through will ALL of them if this turns out to be counterfeit. I am just 'that kinda guy' I'm the WRONG person to do that to (retired, a long time coin collector, with LOTS of time)...so much that I spend hours going through $25 boxes of rolled pennies... LOL.
Also yes I always use a credit card..have gotten easily refunded before when I bought an 1899 CC and the seller never shipped it.
And thanks for the weight suggestion I will definitely do that as well I went to a local dealer today but the 'boss' (expert) was off till Monday, will go back then. If he is not sure the coin is going (if the weight is right) directly from his shop to PCGS as it is WELL worth slabbing as it should grade MS 62 or 63 if authentic. I too (after reading this forum) may be paranoid as well..who wouldn't be after reading all this crap! What throws me for a loop is the other coins this guy is selling, regular stuff, proof sets etc, he even included a refrigerator magnet business card with the coin! maybe he wasn't even sure whether it was authentic?
All feedback is very appreciated and I am happy at least I am able to make others aware even if at the expense of my own time and trouble.
Eddie
Edited by fasteddie
04/13/2008 12:49 am
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Valued Member
United States
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Update:
Peter in Oz...took your advice,
Weight in the fact sheet on this site is 26.73 grams.
I weighed an authentic coin @ AU cond and it weighed 26.7 (my scale only goes to the tenth)
The coin in question weighed 26.8 not enough difference to be decisive as yet
Fast Eddie in LA
Edited by fasteddie
04/13/2008 12:59 am
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Pillar of the Community
United States
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fasteddie:The coin in question weighed 26.8 not enough difference to be decisive as yet
Sounds like a winner to me. I would think a counterfeit would be much further off. That may not even be off since your scale only goes to the tenth. Seems like 26.75 may read a solid 26.8... Hopefully we are being to kneejerk here and you got a great coin! Edited by ratio411
04/13/2008 01:34 am
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United States
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Or the counterfeiter's are MUCH more sophisticated than I/we ever imagined and we are ALL in deep DUDU!
Edited by fasteddie
04/13/2008 01:45 am
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Pillar of the Community
Australia
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G'day, again.
The weight's right, so I'd rest easy on this one.
Peter
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Pillar of the Community
United States
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This is really geting out of hand! So much for our great gov't apprehending these malicous counterfeiters!
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Pillar of the Community
United States
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fasteddie,
Your coin passes the conventional weight test. Most counterfeits are underweight (between 21~24 grams). If the modern counterfeiters are making their planchets out of 90% silver, then we'll have to throw out the weight test and rely on a visual test (comparison of die markers).
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Pillar of the Community
United States
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SeatedNut, Some of the blatant counterfeits don't even look silver. Have you heard/read what metal/combo of metals they are using? Some I have seen in pics actually look like lead. Can't be though. They would be way heavy. Thanks to this thread, I am feeling paranoid. Every Morgan I look at that isn't white, I find myself questioning... hard. I don't want to think this hard!  I have enough trouble valuing and grading. Edited by ratio411
04/14/2008 7:04 pm
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Valued Member
United States
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Your coin passes the conventional weight test. Most counterfeits are underweight (between 21~24 grams).
Well the coin is off by less than 1/10 of one gram so yes...AND the coin is MOST definitely 90% silver 'coin silver'. I MUST send this one in to PCGS (I'll use them becuae I am in LA west coast and it will be faster) no doubt in my mind. If this is counterfeit they are very sophisticated! Eddie Edited by fasteddie
04/14/2008 10:32 pm
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Valued Member
United States
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Looks fake to me...
I highly doubt it...High FEEDBACK over 9,000 at 100% US SELLER, been on ebay 4 years now... 7 days money back...Pay Pal accepted.. Not the signs of a counterfeiter. Edited by fasteddie
04/27/2008 12:41 pm
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Valued Member
United States
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Well,If it IS real,that's at least a $2,500 to $3,000 coin...Weren't those the same mintage found on the S.S. Central America?I'm surprised the would have a NR auction on that...
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