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1806 Draped Bust Half - You Vs PCGS

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 Posted 03/25/2017  10:58 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add BarberMan2016 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Sorry about that here is the grade........

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 Posted 03/25/2017  11:43 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add paralyse to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Wow...
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 Posted 03/25/2017  11:48 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add bandsdean to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I'd like it at VF-20 and LOVE it at F-15. VF-30 seems a bit high. Very attractive notwithstanding.
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 Posted 03/26/2017  08:40 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add billjones to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
If the color in the photo is accurate, grading that coin VF-30 is a massive over grade in my opinion. The reverse especially falls WAY SHORT of the VF-30 grade. There reverse needs a push to make Fine if the coin is graded based on that side. It's more like a VG-10.
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I continue to be amazed at some of the coins/grades posted this month. I could see a VF20 but 30 is out of line - again.
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 Posted 03/26/2017  09:26 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Slider23 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I put this coin at VF 20 and was considering F 15. Is PCGS going down the path of another round of grade inflation? I do not understand how these overgraded coins get into the holder.
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 Posted 03/26/2017  6:05 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add BarberMan2016 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Bill, I also saw this coin in person at my LCS so it is the right color.
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The reason for grade-flation is that grading for U.S. Coins has reached the mature phase of its product life cycle. There are not that many old coins left to grade. The TPGs push programs like special labels for modern coins, but the bottom line is they need to encourage more business. One way to do that is to relax their grading standards which encourages people to resubmit their previously graded coins for upgrades.

It is a vicious cycle. You lower tha standards and the bids tend to go down. That encourages the owners of properly graded coins to submit them for higher grades. Hence you end up with coins like this in a VF-30 holder.
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The reason for grade-flation is that grading for U.S. Coins has reached the mature phase of its product life cycle......the bottom line is they need to encourage more business. One way to do that is to relax their grading standards which encourages people to resubmit....You lower tha standards...


Yes and the coin market has been weak for years now so TPG keep their profits up by inflating grades, thus encouraging more business by enriching themselves and their customers. It's frustrating because collectors start thinking a coin is VF, XF, AU or whatever the holder says and not what the coin actually should grade. The bottom line is more money for the TPG means the submitter (and TPG) stand to benefit and the collector ultimately loses.
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I'm amazed. I am glad so many others saw it the same way I did. I agree the grading is also overgraded and also explains they want to make money. Like the old saying goes. Buy the coin ... not the holder.
Not a big fan of grading services myself.

Not to take anything away from that coin. It's a wonderful coin to have.
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