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1883 Liberty Head No Cents Nickel

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I think I have a predilection for these tiny buggers - they're so cheap. Thoughts on grade and problems? TPG grade and price in 48. Thanks!

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THE MAN IN THE ARENA, Theodore Roosevelt at the Sorbonne Paris on April 23, 1910: "It is not the critic who counts; not the man who points out how the strong man stumbles or where the doer of deeds could have done better. The credit belongs to the man who is actually in the arena, whose face is marred by dust and sweat and blood, who strives valiantly, who errs and comes up short again and again, because there is no effort without error or shortcoming, but who knows the great enthusiasms, the great devotions, who spends himself in a worthy cause; who, at the best, knows, in the end, the triumph of high achievement, and who, at the worst, if he fails, at least he fails while daring greatly, so that his place shall never be with those cold and timid souls who knew neither victory nor defeat."
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 Posted 04/09/2017  10:06 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Biker Coin Guy to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Enough nicks and dings, along with a stain, to keep it out of the MS class. I'm no pro by a long shot, but of all the resources available, I like PCGS Photograde the best. It's especially useful for determining the highest wear points on a coin, that can make the determination between MS and AU. Here is a link to the V nickel section: https://www.PCGS.com/photograde/#/LibNic/Grades
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What do you think the grade is? Thx for sharing your thoughts.
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Looks harshly/improperly cleaned AU58 details
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Part of it depends on what those lines are around the top of Liberty's hair. Are they die scratches? The star above that looks like a die crack.

Otherwise, I don't think it's been cleaned, at least not recently. I want to put it at MS-63 or higher.
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The pics aren't real sharp/clear and I think it graded MS62 or so, maybe even 63. I bet it has pretty good luster in-hand.
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MS-60
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Yes those lines on obverse field on top of hair concern me too . Nobody mentioned the hit on lower cheek . MS-61 .
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I'll say 63. And there's a reason they're cheap.
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the scratches are not traversing the devices therefore polish marks from die polishing. MS63
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MS-62.
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IN NECESSARIIS UNITAS - IN DUBIIS LIBERTAS - IN OMNIBUS CARITAS
THE MAN IN THE ARENA, Theodore Roosevelt at the Sorbonne Paris on April 23, 1910: "It is not the critic who counts; not the man who points out how the strong man stumbles or where the doer of deeds could have done better. The credit belongs to the man who is actually in the arena, whose face is marred by dust and sweat and blood, who strives valiantly, who errs and comes up short again and again, because there is no effort without error or shortcoming, but who knows the great enthusiasms, the great devotions, who spends himself in a worthy cause; who, at the best, knows, in the end, the triumph of high achievement, and who, at the worst, if he fails, at least he fails while daring greatly, so that his place shall never be with those cold and timid souls who knew neither victory nor defeat."
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I want to put it at MS-63 or higher.




Price?
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Sorry. Paid $70. Wholesale bid is $55 but I have never seen these sell at that level. These generally sell at auction for $65-125.
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THE MAN IN THE ARENA, Theodore Roosevelt at the Sorbonne Paris on April 23, 1910: "It is not the critic who counts; not the man who points out how the strong man stumbles or where the doer of deeds could have done better. The credit belongs to the man who is actually in the arena, whose face is marred by dust and sweat and blood, who strives valiantly, who errs and comes up short again and again, because there is no effort without error or shortcoming, but who knows the great enthusiasms, the great devotions, who spends himself in a worthy cause; who, at the best, knows, in the end, the triumph of high achievement, and who, at the worst, if he fails, at least he fails while daring greatly, so that his place shall never be with those cold and timid souls who knew neither victory nor defeat."
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The only thing I can quickly check is ebay sold listings and from that, you got a decent deal. $70 is definitely on the low end for a PCGS MS-64.
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64 sounds fair looking at the slab image. And 64 is the optimal collecting grade as the price jump from 64 to 65 is quite large.
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