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1944 Steel Penny Found

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I would appreciated any comments about it's value.


Counterfeit 1944 Steel cents currently sell for about $1.15 each online.

If it is a genuine US mint issued 1944 Steel cent, the value is much more.

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I believe better pictures is needed, those appears to be scans and may not hold detail with a good digital camera, but even then it would be advisable to submit to PCGS or NGC for authentication.

Question: Where in the house you found this coin?
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It is likely fake. it might be real though. It's worth finding out.
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My immediate gut reaction was that the coin is a fake. Not because of the audacity of the story, but because it just looks fake. After years of seeing fakes, tell-tale signs such as lack of detail and how it just looks wrong qualify as tipping points to experienced collectors.
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Although pix aren't the best, the lack of detail of feathering on wheat stalks with the lack of wear elsewhere is a fair assumption of a counterfeit. Also, how strongly magnetic? A true steelie will literally fly up to a cheap magnet. As previously noted, very nicely done fakes can be bought, I've found two coated ones CRHing.
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One thing you do have to consider as to the lack of detail, the presses were set for striking the softer copper alloy. That could cause a loss of detail on a harder steel planchet. (Conversely 1943 copper cents then to be very sharply detailed because the presses were set for striking the harder steel alloy and brought up the copper very well.)
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Many are too harsh and rush to judgment. I'm on the fence and leaning towards real.



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I doubt very much the OP will be back. He was basically called out as a liar for "saying" something that he didn't even say. I wouldn't come back.
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The mushy details have me questioning the authenticity as well. It may be steel, but it does not appear to be the real deal.
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One thing you do have to consider as to the lack of detail, the presses were set for striking the softer copper alloy. That could cause a loss of detail on a harder steel planchet.


I agree, Conder101, and had thought that when others were talking about mushy details, lack of detail, etc. Also, the areas around the neck and parts of the coat are susceptible to over-polishing of the die. So, taking those two ideas into consideration, I don't think the lack of some detail automatically screams fake.



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I doubt very much the OP will be back. He was basically called out as a liar for "saying" something that he didn't even say.


Unfortunately, this is probably true. I understand being skeptical but, these types of rare errors have to be found somewhere, somehow and by someone. They don't just drop out of thin air and fall into a Heritage auction.

It is possible to be factual without being discouraging. Education is the key to collector success!


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