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1944 Steel Penny Found

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 Posted 05/19/2017  2:56 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add cwb to your friends list
During 1944, the mint used the same planchets that were used the previous year to strike the 1943 Steel cents, to stike foreign coins. This could be the reason the 1944 Steel cents exist, it could simply be a case of a US cent struck on a foreign planchet. A big BUT here, collectors don't seem to let this fact affect the price of the 1944 Steel cents, they are priced as a transitional error being struck on 1943 Steel planchets.

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12. The 1944 Belgium 2 franc coins were struck at the US mint using the same planchets used for the 1943 Steel Lincoln cents. http://www.lincolncentsonline.com/I...20Facts.html



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 Posted 05/19/2017  3:07 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add westernsky to your friends list
I am going to say that your story "of found in a house I bought in 2014" is most likely bogus. If you truly researched it over the past 3 years you'd have discovered that the coin ---IF REAL --- was worth a lot of money. You would have by now figured out that you needed professional expertise in authenticating and marketing of your very valuable coin. If it was real it would have been sent in for authentication a long time ago. So you now magically show up here, almost 3 years after "finding" your valuable coin looking for help? That doesn't make sense. I'd bet 10$ to a donut that your coin originally came from some sidestreet vendor in China. Sorry, but that's fhe way I see it.
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 Posted 05/19/2017  4:57 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Coinfrog to your friends list
Agree, fake.



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 Posted 05/19/2017  6:12 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add SHAFTA9a to your friends list
Sorry, stevenwld but, I agree with westernsky.
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 Posted 05/19/2017  6:25 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add bobby131313 to your friends list

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So you now magically show up here, almost 3 years after "finding" your valuable coin looking for help


He didn't say he found it in 2014, he said he bought the house in 2014.
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 Posted 05/19/2017  7:16 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add cwb to your friends list

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I would appreciated any comments about it's value.


Counterfeit 1944 Steel cents currently sell for about $1.15 each online.

If it is a genuine US mint issued 1944 Steel cent, the value is much more.

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 Posted 05/19/2017  7:26 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add macmercury to your friends list
I believe better pictures is needed, those appears to be scans and may not hold detail with a good digital camera, but even then it would be advisable to submit to PCGS or NGC for authentication.

Question: Where in the house you found this coin?
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 Posted 05/19/2017  9:10 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Illegaltender to your friends list
It is likely fake. it might be real though. It's worth finding out.
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 Posted 05/19/2017  10:23 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add jpsned to your friends list
My immediate gut reaction was that the coin is a fake. Not because of the audacity of the story, but because it just looks fake. After years of seeing fakes, tell-tale signs such as lack of detail and how it just looks wrong qualify as tipping points to experienced collectors.
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 Posted 05/19/2017  10:48 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Crazyb0 to your friends list
Although pix aren't the best, the lack of detail of feathering on wheat stalks with the lack of wear elsewhere is a fair assumption of a counterfeit. Also, how strongly magnetic? A true steelie will literally fly up to a cheap magnet. As previously noted, very nicely done fakes can be bought, I've found two coated ones CRHing.
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 Posted 05/20/2017  08:34 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Conder101 to your friends list
One thing you do have to consider as to the lack of detail, the presses were set for striking the softer copper alloy. That could cause a loss of detail on a harder steel planchet. (Conversely 1943 copper cents then to be very sharply detailed because the presses were set for striking the harder steel alloy and brought up the copper very well.)
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 Posted 05/20/2017  1:07 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Parklane64 to your friends list
Many are too harsh and rush to judgment. I'm on the fence and leaning towards real.



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I doubt very much the OP will be back. He was basically called out as a liar for "saying" something that he didn't even say. I wouldn't come back.
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The mushy details have me questioning the authenticity as well. It may be steel, but it does not appear to be the real deal.
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One thing you do have to consider as to the lack of detail, the presses were set for striking the softer copper alloy. That could cause a loss of detail on a harder steel planchet.


I agree, Conder101, and had thought that when others were talking about mushy details, lack of detail, etc. Also, the areas around the neck and parts of the coat are susceptible to over-polishing of the die. So, taking those two ideas into consideration, I don't think the lack of some detail automatically screams fake.



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I doubt very much the OP will be back. He was basically called out as a liar for "saying" something that he didn't even say.


Unfortunately, this is probably true. I understand being skeptical but, these types of rare errors have to be found somewhere, somehow and by someone. They don't just drop out of thin air and fall into a Heritage auction.

It is possible to be factual without being discouraging. Education is the key to collector success!


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